We do need to realistically look at long-term costs of alternate energy sources; but, FACT….we will eventually run through all of the fossil fuels, and in the process destroy huge swaths of the planet obtaining them.
According to SaskPower, wind power currently makes up about five per cent of the total on the electrical grid. The report estimates Saskatchewan wind power generation will increase by 15 times by 2040, from the current load of 542 gigawatt hours (GWh) to an estimated 8,193 by 2040. 20% is hydro
Nasty socialist government owned utility along with natural gas, telephones and auto insurance
We pay now or pay later. The price of fossil fuel will increase as it becomes more scarce. We are much better off going into renewable sources beforehand and building the infrastructure rather than waiting for desperate demand.
Initial investment may have a price that seems high, but commonality in wind and solar power has been bring the prices of equipment down steadily for years. It is the price you pay for using fossil fuel sources for energy that are extremely costly later. Example: who wants to pay for superfund cleanup of coal ash, coal mining tailings, oil well destruction, nuclear powerplant waste, uranium mining devestation, acid rain damage, water source contamination, related human health decline etc….
Aside from voting for clean energy, each of us can help on an individual basis; i.e. solar power, restrictions of water use in the yard, cut back on plastic use, etc.
Yeah, tell that to Scotland. They are pretty happy with theirs. Europe is even investing in ways to lessen the impact on marine life while they erect the offshore windmills and anchor the floating ones.
If our system of ego-nomics shows it’s not cost effective to save humanity, maybe we need a new system to determine value and allocate resources. (No, it’s not communism or socialism either—all of the ‘isms’ are broken.)
A number of refineries closed during Trumps term ( fossil-fuels gas-and-oil u-s-closes-refineries-china-increases-its-refining-capacity/) But there is a new refinery for US sweet crude being built in Oklahoma! ( story news 2023 05 24 5-6-billion-green-energy-refinery-to-be-built-in-cushing 70251897007/) But for those “renewables are bad” folks, QUOTE: “the refinery will be the first designed and built to take advantage of green energy technology. He said the refinery will produce blue hydrogen with carbon capture to reduce water consumption by 90% and will recycle 80% of waste water. Plans call for the refinery to be powered by 100% renewable electricity sourced by either the electrical grid, or generated onsite from recycled waste heat, as well as geothermal and solar systems.” (fill spaces in links with /)
Wind and solar power are not expensive. They are the cheapest sources of energy available. When lifetime costs are all added up (LCOE), wind is only about $3/MWh, solar $4/MWh, natural gas combined cycle is $6/MWh, coal is $10/MWh, and nuclear is $12/MWh. Storage LCOS is more with pumped hydro being the cheapest.So the idea that switching to renewables is too expensive is completely looney tunes.
gary.eddings4157 Premium Member 7 months ago
We do need to realistically look at long-term costs of alternate energy sources; but, FACT….we will eventually run through all of the fossil fuels, and in the process destroy huge swaths of the planet obtaining them.
Flatlander, purveyor of fine covfefe 7 months ago
According to SaskPower, wind power currently makes up about five per cent of the total on the electrical grid. The report estimates Saskatchewan wind power generation will increase by 15 times by 2040, from the current load of 542 gigawatt hours (GWh) to an estimated 8,193 by 2040. 20% is hydro
Nasty socialist government owned utility along with natural gas, telephones and auto insurance
monya_43 7 months ago
We pay now or pay later. The price of fossil fuel will increase as it becomes more scarce. We are much better off going into renewable sources beforehand and building the infrastructure rather than waiting for desperate demand.
Al Fresco 7 months ago
A Green project in the red.
Free Radical 7 months ago
Initial investment may have a price that seems high, but commonality in wind and solar power has been bring the prices of equipment down steadily for years. It is the price you pay for using fossil fuel sources for energy that are extremely costly later. Example: who wants to pay for superfund cleanup of coal ash, coal mining tailings, oil well destruction, nuclear powerplant waste, uranium mining devestation, acid rain damage, water source contamination, related human health decline etc….
Ginny Premium Member 7 months ago
Aside from voting for clean energy, each of us can help on an individual basis; i.e. solar power, restrictions of water use in the yard, cut back on plastic use, etc.
GiantShetlandPony 7 months ago
Yeah, tell that to Scotland. They are pretty happy with theirs. Europe is even investing in ways to lessen the impact on marine life while they erect the offshore windmills and anchor the floating ones.
MFRXIM Premium Member 7 months ago
There’s no Planet B.
Free Radical 7 months ago
Some politicians think they need to live up to their “Drill Baby Drill” tramp stamp
j.painterjones 7 months ago
I wholeheartedly agree, monya_43
Patjade 7 months ago
How much is the human species worth?
Kilrwat Premium Member 7 months ago
If our system of ego-nomics shows it’s not cost effective to save humanity, maybe we need a new system to determine value and allocate resources. (No, it’s not communism or socialism either—all of the ‘isms’ are broken.)
Mainesailah Premium Member 7 months ago
We need to save some petroleum to produce the lubricants that allow the turbines to keep spinning.
shannon1352 7 months ago
4 or 5 oil refineries closed under Trump. BUT a new one is being built in Oklahoma! (>
shannon1352 7 months ago
A number of refineries closed during Trumps term ( fossil-fuels gas-and-oil u-s-closes-refineries-china-increases-its-refining-capacity/) But there is a new refinery for US sweet crude being built in Oklahoma! ( story news 2023 05 24 5-6-billion-green-energy-refinery-to-be-built-in-cushing 70251897007/) But for those “renewables are bad” folks, QUOTE: “the refinery will be the first designed and built to take advantage of green energy technology. He said the refinery will produce blue hydrogen with carbon capture to reduce water consumption by 90% and will recycle 80% of waste water. Plans call for the refinery to be powered by 100% renewable electricity sourced by either the electrical grid, or generated onsite from recycled waste heat, as well as geothermal and solar systems.” (fill spaces in links with /)
Dave Wesely Premium Member 7 months ago
Wind and solar power are not expensive. They are the cheapest sources of energy available. When lifetime costs are all added up (LCOE), wind is only about $3/MWh, solar $4/MWh, natural gas combined cycle is $6/MWh, coal is $10/MWh, and nuclear is $12/MWh. Storage LCOS is more with pumped hydro being the cheapest.So the idea that switching to renewables is too expensive is completely looney tunes.