I was wondering why I had no idea what was being referenced here. A google search quickly revealed that it has only been reported on far-right websites that have no journalistic credibility.
I strongly suspect Tish James is going to start sending people from the crooked Trump Organization to jail before John Durham produces anything that stands up in court.
This is now a RW hot topic, resuscitated from the past without any new info (eg.: https://twpundit.com/2022/02/14/sergei-millian-justice-delayed-is-justice-denied/ ). Fox and Co must be desperate for anything the divert from the current evidence of Trump’s illegal activities. A weak case remains a weak case, no matter how much the RW wants to synthesize what they see as a political weapon.
Mr. Durham has spent literally years, and has spent unknown (but probably excessive) amounts of dollars. He has to justify his existence. His mission is a conclusion in search of evidence.
So far, he has found one person in the State Department who changed an inconsequential e-mail when forwarding, and did so in error. Guilty as charged.
I found out why so many liberals here don’t know about the latest news in the Hillary Russian Hoax criminal conspracy. The NYT didn’t cover the story because the revelations “tend to involve dense and obscure issues, so dissecting them requires asking readers to expend significant mental energy and time.”(Quoted from NYT)
So the Times thinks its readers aren’t intelligent enough to understand complex issues.
The NYT: All the news that fits our readers’ ability to think.
So much more to the NYT coverage, than ari suggests:
Citing this filing, Fox News inaccurately declared that Mr. Durham had said he had evidence that Hillary Clinton’s campaign had paid a technology company to “infiltrate” a White House server. The Washington Examiner claimed that this all meant there had been spying on Mr. Trump’s White House office. And when mainstream publications held back, Mr. Trump and his allies began shaming the news media.
“The press refuses to even mention the major crime that took place,” Mr. Trump said in a statement on Monday. “This in itself is a scandal, the fact that a story so big, so powerful and so important for the future of our nation is getting zero coverage from LameStream, is being talked about all over the world.”
There were many problems with all this. For one, much of this was not new: The New York Times had reported in October what Mr. Sussmann had told the C.I.A. about data suggesting that Russian-made smartphones, called YotaPhones, had been connecting to networks at Trump Tower and the White House, among other places.
The conservative media also skewed what the filing said. For example, Mr. Durham’s filing never used the word “infiltrate.” And it never claimed that Mr. Joffe’s company was being paid by the Clinton campaign.
Most important, contrary to the reporting, the filing never said the White House data that came under scrutiny was from the Trump era. According to lawyers for David Dagon, a Georgia Institute of Technology data scientist who helped develop the Yota analysis, the data — so-called DNS logs, which are records of when computers or smartphones have prepared to communicate with servers over the internet — came from Barack Obama’s presidency.
“What Trump and some news outlets are saying is wrong,” said Jody Westby and Mark Rasch, both lawyers for Mr. Dagon. “The cybersecurity researchers were investigating malware in the White House, not spying on the Trump campaign, and to our knowledge all of the data they used was nonprivate DNS data from before Trump took office.”
In a statement, a spokesperson for Mr. Joffe said that “contrary to the allegations in this recent filing,” he was apolitical, did not work for any political party, and had lawful access under a contract to work with others to analyze DNS data — including from the White House — for the purpose of hunting for security breaches or threats.
After Russians hacked networks for the White House and Democrats in 2015 and 2016, it went on, the cybersecurity researchers were “deeply concerned” to find data suggesting Russian-made YotaPhones were in proximity to the Trump campaign and the White House, so “prepared a report of their findings, which was subsequently shared with the C.I.A.”
Oh my god did we the public unfairly degrade the worst president of our history. How can we rectify this grievous error? Maybe a life time trip to the federal prison, or maybe a extra large noose around lard ass’s neck.
What we actually have is a superfluous story about cybersecurity researchers at Joffe’s company examining malware in the White House — from Obama’s term, not Trump’s — and there doesn’t appear to be any connection between Joffe’s firm and Clinton.
Maybe Durham and his team didn’t realize their court filing would be exploited as part of a public-deception campaign launched by Trump and his media cohorts. Perhaps Durham and his team knew what would happen and didn’t care.
Either way, when your weird uncle who consumes conservative media all day sent you all-caps emails about Trump being “spied” on, he was pushing a story with no real basis in fact. The original “Spygate” story was a sad joke, and its third iteration is no better.
The difference, however, is the reaction from congressional Republicans. In 2018, after the then-president said the FBI had spied on his campaign, GOP lawmakers made clear they wanted nothing to do with Trump’s nonsense.
This week, congressional Republicans are taking the fake scandal very seriously. Republican Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio declared today, “If they can spy on a sitting United States President, they can spy on anyone.”
In reality, “they” didn’t spy on a sitting president, but if House Republicans take back the majority, and Jordan becomes the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, it’s a safe bet a congressional investigation into this nonsense will be a top priority.
billopfer Premium Member about 2 years ago
Varvel’s imagination is vivid but fatally flawed.
2AndFour about 2 years ago
No surprise here. Hillary fabricated the entire Russia hoax. Watergate was child’s play compared to what Hillary, Obama and Biden did to Trump.
Durak Premium Member about 2 years ago
Oh lord, not Hillary! Still? Again? Oh well I’m in!
Hillary 2024!
marbal about 2 years ago
Lock her up
Gary McClure about 2 years ago
I think that you hit the nail on the head.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member about 2 years ago
Benghazi/email redux. Another fantasy trying to find something where nothing is.
davidthoms1 about 2 years ago
Durham has found nothing and is trying to justify his waste of time and money. Trump is guilty and that you can’t change!
1BlackLivesMatter Premium Member about 2 years ago
Hillary will look great in a fluorescent orange jumpsuit, plus it will free up Bill to go out womanizing.
s49nav about 2 years ago
Lock her up.
Bendarling1 about 2 years ago
Talk about missing the mark.
Grace L. Ferguson Border Patrol and Screen Doors about 2 years ago
Spot on, Mr. Varvel!
StackableContainers about 2 years ago
I was wondering why I had no idea what was being referenced here. A google search quickly revealed that it has only been reported on far-right websites that have no journalistic credibility.
Christopher Shea about 2 years ago
I strongly suspect Tish James is going to start sending people from the crooked Trump Organization to jail before John Durham produces anything that stands up in court.
Arthur I Romeo Premium Member about 2 years ago
She should have known it would come back and bite her in the butt.
jhayesd31 about 2 years ago
But Her Emails…….. Got Flushed down the Toilet?
Ontman about 2 years ago
Is ‘lock her up’ is the only thing these right wing nut cases have in their arsenal?
martens about 2 years ago
This is now a RW hot topic, resuscitated from the past without any new info (eg.: https://twpundit.com/2022/02/14/sergei-millian-justice-delayed-is-justice-denied/ ). Fox and Co must be desperate for anything the divert from the current evidence of Trump’s illegal activities. A weak case remains a weak case, no matter how much the RW wants to synthesize what they see as a political weapon.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/durham-s-sussman-indictment-bizarre-coda-doj-s-russia-investigation-n1279490
I Play One On TV about 2 years ago
Mr. Durham has spent literally years, and has spent unknown (but probably excessive) amounts of dollars. He has to justify his existence. His mission is a conclusion in search of evidence.
So far, he has found one person in the State Department who changed an inconsequential e-mail when forwarding, and did so in error. Guilty as charged.
Your tax dollars at work.
bow493 Premium Member about 2 years ago
Karma sure is a Hillary, and boy, are the peanut gallery patrolling the comics mad!!! Trump was right all along and the haters just can’t stand it!
Grace L. Ferguson Border Patrol and Screen Doors about 2 years ago
I found out why so many liberals here don’t know about the latest news in the Hillary Russian Hoax criminal conspracy. The NYT didn’t cover the story because the revelations “tend to involve dense and obscure issues, so dissecting them requires asking readers to expend significant mental energy and time.”(Quoted from NYT)
So the Times thinks its readers aren’t intelligent enough to understand complex issues.
The NYT: All the news that fits our readers’ ability to think.
Kurtass Premium Member about 2 years ago
KE changed it’s name again. Comment above this one.
Patjade about 2 years ago
charliekane about 2 years ago
So much more to the NYT coverage, than ari suggests:
Citing this filing, Fox News inaccurately declared that Mr. Durham had said he had evidence that Hillary Clinton’s campaign had paid a technology company to “infiltrate” a White House server. The Washington Examiner claimed that this all meant there had been spying on Mr. Trump’s White House office. And when mainstream publications held back, Mr. Trump and his allies began shaming the news media.
“The press refuses to even mention the major crime that took place,” Mr. Trump said in a statement on Monday. “This in itself is a scandal, the fact that a story so big, so powerful and so important for the future of our nation is getting zero coverage from LameStream, is being talked about all over the world.”
There were many problems with all this. For one, much of this was not new: The New York Times had reported in October what Mr. Sussmann had told the C.I.A. about data suggesting that Russian-made smartphones, called YotaPhones, had been connecting to networks at Trump Tower and the White House, among other places.
The conservative media also skewed what the filing said. For example, Mr. Durham’s filing never used the word “infiltrate.” And it never claimed that Mr. Joffe’s company was being paid by the Clinton campaign.
Most important, contrary to the reporting, the filing never said the White House data that came under scrutiny was from the Trump era. According to lawyers for David Dagon, a Georgia Institute of Technology data scientist who helped develop the Yota analysis, the data — so-called DNS logs, which are records of when computers or smartphones have prepared to communicate with servers over the internet — came from Barack Obama’s presidency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/14/us/politics/durham-sussmann-trump-russia.html
charliekane about 2 years ago
Continuing from above:
“What Trump and some news outlets are saying is wrong,” said Jody Westby and Mark Rasch, both lawyers for Mr. Dagon. “The cybersecurity researchers were investigating malware in the White House, not spying on the Trump campaign, and to our knowledge all of the data they used was nonprivate DNS data from before Trump took office.”
In a statement, a spokesperson for Mr. Joffe said that “contrary to the allegations in this recent filing,” he was apolitical, did not work for any political party, and had lawful access under a contract to work with others to analyze DNS data — including from the White House — for the purpose of hunting for security breaches or threats.
After Russians hacked networks for the White House and Democrats in 2015 and 2016, it went on, the cybersecurity researchers were “deeply concerned” to find data suggesting Russian-made YotaPhones were in proximity to the Trump campaign and the White House, so “prepared a report of their findings, which was subsequently shared with the C.I.A.”
ncorgbl about 2 years ago
Benghazi Part Deux.
Ammo is on a break Premium Member about 2 years ago
We will see
schaefer jim about 2 years ago
Oh my god did we the public unfairly degrade the worst president of our history. How can we rectify this grievous error? Maybe a life time trip to the federal prison, or maybe a extra large noose around lard ass’s neck.
TrulyTexan about 2 years ago
Just because you keep saying it was a hoax does not make it one. Try something different.
Freedom From Premium Member about 2 years ago
So, a Democrat hero in the Coup against President Trump was discovered to be a traitor. Whodathunk?
Radish the wordsmith about 2 years ago
What we actually have is a superfluous story about cybersecurity researchers at Joffe’s company examining malware in the White House — from Obama’s term, not Trump’s — and there doesn’t appear to be any connection between Joffe’s firm and Clinton.
Maybe Durham and his team didn’t realize their court filing would be exploited as part of a public-deception campaign launched by Trump and his media cohorts. Perhaps Durham and his team knew what would happen and didn’t care.
Either way, when your weird uncle who consumes conservative media all day sent you all-caps emails about Trump being “spied” on, he was pushing a story with no real basis in fact. The original “Spygate” story was a sad joke, and its third iteration is no better.
The difference, however, is the reaction from congressional Republicans. In 2018, after the then-president said the FBI had spied on his campaign, GOP lawmakers made clear they wanted nothing to do with Trump’s nonsense.
This week, congressional Republicans are taking the fake scandal very seriously. Republican Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio declared today, “If they can spy on a sitting United States President, they can spy on anyone.”
In reality, “they” didn’t spy on a sitting president, but if House Republicans take back the majority, and Jordan becomes the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, it’s a safe bet a congressional investigation into this nonsense will be a top priority.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maddow-blog-the-new-spying-story-is-clearly-not-what-trump-thinks-it-is/ar-AATTQiH?ocid=msedgntp
Radish the wordsmith about 2 years ago
Durham Accused Of Stoking Trumpy Conspiracy Theories In Blistering Counterattack By Target Of His Probe
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/durham-accused-of-stoking-trumpy-conspiracy-theories-in-blistering-counterattack-by-target-of-his-probe/ar-AATTvqP?ocid=msedgntp
Rich Douglas about 2 years ago
Of course, the Durham statement is a big nothing burger and makes zero implications that Hillary Clinton did anything wrong. This is just gaslighting.
DrDon1 about 2 years ago
Could it be that Durham’s investigation is as competent as Giuliani’s many “investigations” into alleged Nov. election ‘fraud?’
FJB Premium Member about 2 years ago
7 posts by Radish. You know you struck a nerve when cave dwellers feel the need to come on so hard. Well done, my friend.
cwg about 2 years ago
Just when you thought you got rid of the lies, they come back and hit you in the back.
JackReecher about 2 years ago
Using CNN as an impartial source??? LOL!!!