KKKyle Rittenhouse tried to claim he had gone there to act as a medic, though I note his AR-15 did not fit in any medical kits.
After the verdict, he enrolled in the nursing program at Arizona State University, but now they say he is no longer enrolled (did not report whether he dropped out or was booted out).
Apparently KKKyle was confused about what kind of SHOTS nurses are supposed to deliver.
Clever. Let’s NOT let the vigilantes win: That’s a sure recipe for (armed) anarchy and the imposition of order from outside if needed. We need police who have a clearly stated role with clearly stated limits. We need courts that decide on guilt with due process, and not while in the throes of adrenaline… and well separated from politics. And we need a rational way to convert criminals into tolerable citizens. Though I’m less sanguine than I used to be about the sanctity of the court system.
I took training as one of several IMTs (Industrial Medical Technician) at my place of employment. I served as such for about 20 years. We took an initial 8 weeks of classroom instruction at a local hospital and the tests required to be certified within our medical district, plus shots against hepatitis and tetanus. I kept a bag with basic first aid equipment including a stethoscope and blood pressure wrap near my work area.
In addition, we had access to the defibrillator and oxygen tank in the First Aid office, and knew how to use them. We were not allowed to give out medications, however, even those widely sold in drugstores, such as aspirin. People had to buy them at a vending cabinet in the lunchroom.
We were at the lowest level of training as First Responders, and constantly reminded not to act beyond our level — that was for trained EMTs, licensed paramedics, and nurses/ doctors. We initially assessed each medical situation; attempted to stop bleeding from wounds; further treated an injury as trained; and prepared people whose condition was beyond our level of training for transport to a medical facility.
In my years as IMT, I was on the low end of the designation First Responder. My fellow IMTs were warned not to be carelessly heroic. To put ourselves in danger might harm others as well as ourselves, and make a bad situation much worse.
And here for the world to see was a seventeen-year-old patrolling streets with a deadly weapon, no police guidance — provoking and escalating confrontations — acting the direct opposite to what was proper in such a dangerous situation — ultimately absolved of the consequences of his fatal actions. And he seems a hero to so many? Partisan politics has polluted our judgment, in courts, legislatures, and a wide swath of our citizens.
Carrying firearms without needing a permit. “Stand your ground” and equivalent laws allowing people to become judge/jury/executioner without legal ramification. Vigilantiism is thriving in the U.S.
Thought experiment for our right-wing trolls: If Rittenhouse had happened to be Black, would your opinions on this issue be different? (Not that right-wing trolls can THINK, of course, but I might as well amuse myself……)
Kyle Rittenhouse; just another young, poor, put-upon white boy. But isn’t that what “privilege” is all about? Privilege derives from the two Latin roots, “privus” (private) and “lege” (law). So young Mr. Rittenhouse was the beneficiary of the private law for young, poor, put-upon white boys – not unlike poor, young, put-upon Ethan Couch. /s
KR was so distraught over his killing of 2 people and the severely injuring another he couldn’t wait to travel to Mar-A-Lardo to see his hero for a photo-op. Poor kid. I hope he’ll be ok. /s
The idea of Rittenhouse giving someone medical aid is right up there with Jim Jones giving “Kool-Aid” to his followers in Guyana—and that didn’t work out very well either…..
DD Wiz Premium Member over 2 years ago
KKKyle Rittenhouse tried to claim he had gone there to act as a medic, though I note his AR-15 did not fit in any medical kits.
After the verdict, he enrolled in the nursing program at Arizona State University, but now they say he is no longer enrolled (did not report whether he dropped out or was booted out).
Apparently KKKyle was confused about what kind of SHOTS nurses are supposed to deliver.
Concretionist over 2 years ago
Clever. Let’s NOT let the vigilantes win: That’s a sure recipe for (armed) anarchy and the imposition of order from outside if needed. We need police who have a clearly stated role with clearly stated limits. We need courts that decide on guilt with due process, and not while in the throes of adrenaline… and well separated from politics. And we need a rational way to convert criminals into tolerable citizens. Though I’m less sanguine than I used to be about the sanctity of the court system.
GOGOPOWERANGERS over 2 years ago
Vigilante justice is worse than police voilence
PraiseofFolly over 2 years ago
I took training as one of several IMTs (Industrial Medical Technician) at my place of employment. I served as such for about 20 years. We took an initial 8 weeks of classroom instruction at a local hospital and the tests required to be certified within our medical district, plus shots against hepatitis and tetanus. I kept a bag with basic first aid equipment including a stethoscope and blood pressure wrap near my work area.
In addition, we had access to the defibrillator and oxygen tank in the First Aid office, and knew how to use them. We were not allowed to give out medications, however, even those widely sold in drugstores, such as aspirin. People had to buy them at a vending cabinet in the lunchroom.
We were at the lowest level of training as First Responders, and constantly reminded not to act beyond our level — that was for trained EMTs, licensed paramedics, and nurses/ doctors. We initially assessed each medical situation; attempted to stop bleeding from wounds; further treated an injury as trained; and prepared people whose condition was beyond our level of training for transport to a medical facility.
In my years as IMT, I was on the low end of the designation First Responder. My fellow IMTs were warned not to be carelessly heroic. To put ourselves in danger might harm others as well as ourselves, and make a bad situation much worse.
And here for the world to see was a seventeen-year-old patrolling streets with a deadly weapon, no police guidance — provoking and escalating confrontations — acting the direct opposite to what was proper in such a dangerous situation — ultimately absolved of the consequences of his fatal actions. And he seems a hero to so many? Partisan politics has polluted our judgment, in courts, legislatures, and a wide swath of our citizens.
Zebrastripes over 2 years ago
Another evil entity joins the flock
The Love of Money is . . . over 2 years ago
The comment from one horse to the other . . .“We’re heading to the glue factory for sure !”
Masterskrain Premium Member over 2 years ago
By the way… the Texass “Abortion Ruling” is ALSO a Government sanctioning of vigilantes…only this time they will PAY them a $10,000 reward!
mourdac Premium Member over 2 years ago
Carrying firearms without needing a permit. “Stand your ground” and equivalent laws allowing people to become judge/jury/executioner without legal ramification. Vigilantiism is thriving in the U.S.
Godfreydaniel over 2 years ago
Rittenhouse is, chronologically, a young punk kid. Mentally, he is nowhere NEAR that advanced!
Godfreydaniel over 2 years ago
Thought experiment for our right-wing trolls: If Rittenhouse had happened to be Black, would your opinions on this issue be different? (Not that right-wing trolls can THINK, of course, but I might as well amuse myself……)
Totalloser Premium Member over 2 years ago
I want to see how the NRA and Republicans react when a Black or Brown guy shoots people at a White Power Demonstration
Bookworm over 2 years ago
Kyle Rittenhouse; just another young, poor, put-upon white boy. But isn’t that what “privilege” is all about? Privilege derives from the two Latin roots, “privus” (private) and “lege” (law). So young Mr. Rittenhouse was the beneficiary of the private law for young, poor, put-upon white boys – not unlike poor, young, put-upon Ethan Couch. /s
CW Stevenson over 2 years ago
Well said!
Ally2005 over 2 years ago
KR was so distraught over his killing of 2 people and the severely injuring another he couldn’t wait to travel to Mar-A-Lardo to see his hero for a photo-op. Poor kid. I hope he’ll be ok. /s
knutdl over 2 years ago
Defund the horse.
I C U over 2 years ago
Squirrel !
RussBowers over 2 years ago
Snot nose kid with big gun becomes rightwing hero’…more news at seven.
mkvinc Premium Member over 2 years ago
DDWiz, it’s nice to have you back.
tee929 over 2 years ago
The idea of Rittenhouse giving someone medical aid is right up there with Jim Jones giving “Kool-Aid” to his followers in Guyana—and that didn’t work out very well either…..