It is not necessarily illegal. “Quid pro quo” is only illegal if the “quid” or the “quo” is illegal. If both the “quid” and the “quo” are legal — a legal exchange, such as a trade deal — no problem. But if either the “quid” or the “quo” are ILLEGAL, big problem.
There are many official acts that involve a “quid pro quo” that are perfectly legal, such as trade deals and even putting pressure on foreign governments to help with matters of official U.S. policy, but NOT solicitation of actions that are in clear violation of U.S. law for personal political advantage, such as BRIBERY, SOLICITATION of illegal foreign political aid or EXTORTION.
So what we really need to address is the ILLEGAL part. In this case, BRIBERY, one of the two crimes explicitly stated in Article II Section 4 of the Constitution, along with treason and then the more vague, generalized mention of unspecified “high crimes and misdemeanors,” which is anything the Congress says it is and the Senate will agree merits conviction.
Clearly, the more specific term we should use is BRIBERY, which includes the solicitation of something of value in exchange for performance of official duties, whether or not the thing of value is delivered.
Rabid Rudy claims to have “Insurance” if Fat-Ass tries to throw him under the bus. Maybe the Pee tape? A recording of the treasonweasel BRAGGING about all the laws he’s broken and gotten away with? The name and address of trump’s Cocaine Dealer??? Hummm….
The little things like supply-side economics removing the wage-earners ability to prosper from their own productivity, “news” becoming entertainment/opinion/propaganda, privacy being traded for a false sense of security and many travel/border inconveniences (“Patriot” Act), exclusive, third-world style, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, nationalism being presented as patriotism, and especially the division of deep partisanship are eroding our constitutional democratic republic much to the delight of America’s enemies both internal and external.
Still waiting for something more concrete than someone who claims to have overheard a phone conversation, or at least part of it, one side of it, that might have been Trump, but took place in a restaurant in Kiev under circumstances prohibited by rules preventing said conversation in public….
Congressman Chris Stewart: “Do you have any information regarding the President of the United States accepting any bribes?”
Yovanovitch: “No.”
Congressman Chris Stewart: “Do you have any information regarding any criminal activity that the President of the United States has been involved with at all?”
Yovanovitch :“No.”
And then we have this:
Kostiantyn Kulyk deputy director of Ukraine’s Prosecutor General’s International Legal Cooperation Dept. told John Solomon (The Hill) in April that for a year he’s been blocked from getting visas for himself and a team of senior law enforcement officials to go to the U.S. to deliver evidence of Democratic party wrongdoing during the 2016 election to the DOJ. The senior prosecutor said he never was able to make the trip because the visas were blocked by U.S. Ambassador Yovanovitch.
DD Wiz Premium Member over 4 years ago
“Quid pro quo” just means “this for that.”
It is just an exchange of value.
It is not necessarily illegal. “Quid pro quo” is only illegal if the “quid” or the “quo” is illegal. If both the “quid” and the “quo” are legal — a legal exchange, such as a trade deal — no problem. But if either the “quid” or the “quo” are ILLEGAL, big problem.
There are many official acts that involve a “quid pro quo” that are perfectly legal, such as trade deals and even putting pressure on foreign governments to help with matters of official U.S. policy, but NOT solicitation of actions that are in clear violation of U.S. law for personal political advantage, such as BRIBERY, SOLICITATION of illegal foreign political aid or EXTORTION.
So what we really need to address is the ILLEGAL part. In this case, BRIBERY, one of the two crimes explicitly stated in Article II Section 4 of the Constitution, along with treason and then the more vague, generalized mention of unspecified “high crimes and misdemeanors,” which is anything the Congress says it is and the Senate will agree merits conviction.
Clearly, the more specific term we should use is BRIBERY, which includes the solicitation of something of value in exchange for performance of official duties, whether or not the thing of value is delivered.
Darsan54 Premium Member over 4 years ago
Succinctly put. Kudos.
viewer1 Premium Member over 4 years ago
And BRIBERY in the Constitution referred to a President accepting a bribe…they did not want a President to be bought off by a foreign entity.
Masterskrain Premium Member over 4 years ago
The Treasonweasel’s GUILTY! PERIOD!
Zebrastripes over 4 years ago
Guilty as charged! Lock him up along with the A-holes defending him with their life….wonder how much $$$$ they get?
Masterskrain Premium Member over 4 years ago
Rabid Rudy claims to have “Insurance” if Fat-Ass tries to throw him under the bus. Maybe the Pee tape? A recording of the treasonweasel BRAGGING about all the laws he’s broken and gotten away with? The name and address of trump’s Cocaine Dealer??? Hummm….
superposition over 4 years ago
The little things like supply-side economics removing the wage-earners ability to prosper from their own productivity, “news” becoming entertainment/opinion/propaganda, privacy being traded for a false sense of security and many travel/border inconveniences (“Patriot” Act), exclusive, third-world style, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, nationalism being presented as patriotism, and especially the division of deep partisanship are eroding our constitutional democratic republic much to the delight of America’s enemies both internal and external.
shamest Premium Member over 4 years ago
Quit Pro Quo latin for bribe and your own personnel interests
Andylit Premium Member over 4 years ago
Still waiting for something more concrete than someone who claims to have overheard a phone conversation, or at least part of it, one side of it, that might have been Trump, but took place in a restaurant in Kiev under circumstances prohibited by rules preventing said conversation in public….
Congressman Chris Stewart: “Do you have any information regarding the President of the United States accepting any bribes?”
Yovanovitch: “No.”
Congressman Chris Stewart: “Do you have any information regarding any criminal activity that the President of the United States has been involved with at all?”
Yovanovitch :“No.”
And then we have this:
Kostiantyn Kulyk deputy director of Ukraine’s Prosecutor General’s International Legal Cooperation Dept. told John Solomon (The Hill) in April that for a year he’s been blocked from getting visas for himself and a team of senior law enforcement officials to go to the U.S. to deliver evidence of Democratic party wrongdoing during the 2016 election to the DOJ. The senior prosecutor said he never was able to make the trip because the visas were blocked by U.S. Ambassador Yovanovitch.
Radish the wordsmith over 4 years ago
The extortion scheme of the failing Trump admin will get him impeached.
Redd Panda over 4 years ago
TOTAL EXONERATION….YUP.
Anyone can see, trump is as innocent as OJ. Yup.