Pat Oliphant for November 11, 2010

Yeah, but you watch. The Dems that are left haven’t learned anything, and she will be elected Minority Leader by a landslide.

She looks like a cross between Barbie and the Joker and comes across about as well in interviews… Maybe she’s just not a good public speaker…

After all her hard work and accomplishments she deserves to be elected minority leader. I would vote for her.

What’s about that place that the inhabitants don’t know when to retire. Move on Babe.

Depending on Libertarian1’s tone he does have a point. Righties hate Pelosi because she actually accomplished the vast majority of what she was elected to do. She was stopped only by the Senate.

Meanwhile plenty of Righties want her elected because she draws plenty of fire… much like Lefties want Palin nominated because she does as well.

Question to fredgold

Just where do you go to find unbiased reportage?

Why this organized pile-on of Pelosi? The Speaker’s job is to get legislation passed – this she did to a fare thee well. There were two problems – Obama’s putting the perfect before the possible, and his lack of a forceful Senate leader.

^ Because she did was she was supposed to and did it well. Female politicians, from what I hear, are best served by quitting halfway through their terms.

^ funny one, jade

^ you are all being humorous I assume. She had a 79 vote majority. What possible skill did it demand to get those bills through? The Senate on the other hand was closer and required skill. That is why most didn’t pass.

The new House has a large Republican majority. Will you give huge amounts of credit to Boehner if he gets bills through? If they don’t pass he gets blamed. The default assumption is everything will pass.

Libertarian1

I think it is moot to wonder if Boehner will get credit for passing legislation, because he and the tea party want to make this session all about undoing Obamacare and any other high-profile Obama-passed legislation that will keep their cause in the news. If they actually try to pass new legislation, there will be gridlock, and it is my belief that they depend on an emotionally-charged populace to keep them in power. Gridlock is boring, so there will be nothing with which to light another fire under their target voters.

…I guess there will always be gay marriage proposals with which they can draw out their base…

Take away the “blue dogs” and her “majority” wasn’t nearly as big. The “TEA party” seems to have canned half the “puppies” so we shall see.

”^ you are all being humorous I assume. She had a 79 vote majority. What possible skill did it demand to get those bills through?”

The Democrats, for a good while, in the Senate, had the ability to break procedural hurdles with their lead, and even so afterwards.

“and Bone-Head will not be Elected Speaker of The House by the Republicans.”

You sure about that one? He seemed pretty set in thinking he’d get it.

RichardSRussell – so right!!

Tigger – when pigs fly!!

Nancy’s only sin is that she’s not young, cute, sweet like Sarah. We’ll soon find out who is more qualified to lead.

^ You tell the truth nobody wants to hear.

Backward minds who see gays as a threat to the public order also see women as a threat unless they are hot.

txmystic

From a strictly tactical viewpoint the results of the election worked out perfectly for the Republicans. They only control the House and all spending bills originate there. If they for instance repeal ObamaCare (they won’t) it will be blocked in the Senate. Republican congressmen can go home in 2012 and run on that.

If there is gridlock they won’t be blamed because both parties are in control. 20 (?) Democratic Senators will be up in 2012. Many are from red states. They saw what happened this year and will be scared.

Despite the cries from progressives the Dems never listened to the Republicans but now there must be compromise. Already Obama has informed HuffPost he will support extension of the Bush tax cuts for all. I repeat for all. Compromise.

^^ ^^^Hey what’s with the sexist generalizations? Strong intelligent women are more interesting than hot air-heads.

Nancy has served well, but eventually its time for a change, which would apply also (or more so) to Harry Reid.

I know the Repubs like to say that the Dems were high-handed and never compromised in the last couple of years but I think the real problem is that the Repubs never accept any compromise. They’re firm position since 1994 is “Do things 100% our way or we’ll stonewall everything.”

On both health care and cap-and-trade, the administration started with bills crafted along the lines Republicans insisted on 10 years ago, only to find they still weren’t serious about anything.

In the health care bill, the Dems even took out many things that were important to them (like the option for a single payer system) as compromises to the Repubs.

Just because the Repubs voted No on everything doesn’t mean the Democrats were uncompromising.

^^ your brain and pc education tells you strong women are interesting, but every man’s guts tell a differant story; they are afraid. It won’t ever change.

^Do you really mean “every man’s guts”? What’s a pc education?

What’s a pc education? The one we have right now.

I mean, deep inside, every man is afraid of women, because they feel powerless against their all-powerful mothers and don’t want to feel that way again.

But some fears can be calmed through education.

^I don’t relate to that take, maybe because our family was traditional paternal dominated - I was more afraid of Dad than Mom. In golf there is a term “over-analysis” or “paralysis by analysis”. Applies to a lot of things.

Oh, well…maybe. Still, I see many men afraid of Pelosi.

It’s like since Palin is hot, it means she is doing at least one thing to please them- be hot.

I might have generalized a bit, though. I’ve known so many pricks who call women names for being promiscuous… AFTER they had some fun with them. (Hearing my brothers and my father talk about their flings turned me off men for a long time).

Oh, well, but I guess men that are not like that (not men that don’t pretend to not be like that, who really ARE NOT LIKE THAT) are like aliens; we don’t hear about them much, but we must keep hope that they exist.

And if I met one, I’d run away, certain there must be a catch somewhere.

^ I realized a few weeks ago that the World is not effed up, men are not disgusting, my family and the crappy town I live in are effed up.

I have the occasional misandric outbreak, though. Should be reducing as leave my old life behind, though.

I’m moving to Montreal during the holidays.

“—So it is true that sexual politics tends to be harsh on the woman—”

Fennec, Frog, lindz, probably some truth in what you say, but perhaps you are being a little overly sensitive. The same thing could be said about men in politics. Harry Reid should not have had the struggle he did to win Nevada, and he probably wouldn’t have if he’d had the studly good looks of, say, a Scott Brown of Massachusetts. Having said that, and recognizing there are exceptions to everything, I believe politicians, men and Women, are ultimately judged on their record and capability.

I think Reid had his struggle because he isn’t pleasing anyone. He really has dropped the ball for the Dems and the Reps would love to see him removed. Maybe good looks would help, but I don’t think age hurts men as much as it hurts women. I also happen to think that Pelosi is really quite good looking, she’s just not young and she doesn’t play dumb (i.e., wink, wink) as bubbly, cutesy, perky Sarah does. She also has the vote of the religious right because of her pious innocence.

Libertarian1

Well, compromise is boring, too. ;-)

We shall see…already the dust is settling from the election, so now the truly interesting maneuvers are afoot. Who’s got the popcorn?

Best wishes in Montreal MFrog. I’ve never been to Montreal, but I hear it can be exciting. Maybe a little dowdy from too much ethnic and language politics. But the Habs are doing better. Hey Babe, its comeback time!

I see the Dems are going with the veteran white gal, the veteran black guy, and the veteran white guy. I presume because of who they are, what they’ve done, and not what they are. The mistake is not going with some new blood. Institutions need new people with fresh ideas and energy to move forward.

If I can find sanity there (and I’ll think I’ll find it), I’ll be okay.

Sooky Rottweiler says; I can’t wait! I heard all water hydrants in Montreal smell like poutine.

Good luck Froggie. I’ve a friend who is also moving out of town. I wish you and her the best and that positive vibes surround you both.