The issue is ignorance over knowledge of anything in the “new”, or accepting change. Read the dictionary definitions of “liberal” vs “conservative”; just ignoring political parties in the U.S., it’s about inner driving psychology of the individual.
There ARE “conservative” and “liberal” elements in folks of both parites, but a single viewpoint in many people is not simply and totally one or the other. Just as there are a lot of fiscally conservative Democrats, there are, or at least were, socially liberal Repubicans (Mark Hatfield was one example).
The problems today stem from those in media, politics, or “public” who radicalize toward ONLY a black and white division, in all things. Science confuses people who choose to REMAIN ignorant, and that is where “stupid” comes in… whether in medicine, physics, oceanography, chemistry, biology, or other fields.
Anti Vaxxers come from all walks. Just because two of them are Republicans doesn’t make this a party Issue. Also, ‘that’ party isn’t making those statements. Just a handlful of them. Or should we start judging ‘that other’ party in total by some of their less savory members?
See DTroutMA’s post which sums it up nicely. And my statement still stands. The cartoon is non-partisan. Braindead tried to turn it into one.
I’m a liberal and I strongly support vaccinations. When I was young, there were no measles, mumps or chicken pox vaccines and the only immunity available was to live through the diseases and hope you survived the opportunist bugs that might take advantage of you while you were weakened. I’d rather spare a child all that misery with a vaccine that might make them a little ill from a weakened virus, than risk their lives by having them catch the full strength wild version. Their parents may have the ‘right’ to decide not to give their child a vaccine, but the parents do have a responsibility to protect their child from known harmful agents—putting poisons out of reach, securing their child in a car seat to protect them from injuries in vehicular accidents, not exposing them to dangerous animals—and a host of other dangers. And, I’m sorry, but viruses are one of those known dangers. To not vaccinate your child (unless they’re allergic to eggs) is the height of irresponsibility.
Last night (Friday) on Bill Maher’s show, one of his guests was Mariane Williamson. While discussing those who are against vaccines, she suggested that for many, it may be not so much that they don’t trust the vaccine itself, but that they may distrust the pharmaceutical companies that make them. After all, in the past some of these serum manufacturers have lied to the public, and now, like the government (whom we know NEVER lie to us, Repub or Dem) many won’t believe their claims. Interesting take on the debate.
If we, Homo sapiens, do not take hold of the science and do what is necessary…then Mother Nature will step-in and do it Her way…and that will not be pretty.
braindead Premium Member over 9 years ago
Notice how the back end looks like Rand Paul?
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
The issue is ignorance over knowledge of anything in the “new”, or accepting change. Read the dictionary definitions of “liberal” vs “conservative”; just ignoring political parties in the U.S., it’s about inner driving psychology of the individual.
There ARE “conservative” and “liberal” elements in folks of both parites, but a single viewpoint in many people is not simply and totally one or the other. Just as there are a lot of fiscally conservative Democrats, there are, or at least were, socially liberal Repubicans (Mark Hatfield was one example).
The problems today stem from those in media, politics, or “public” who radicalize toward ONLY a black and white division, in all things. Science confuses people who choose to REMAIN ignorant, and that is where “stupid” comes in… whether in medicine, physics, oceanography, chemistry, biology, or other fields.
I Play One On TV over 9 years ago
And the universe is 6000 years old. Men and dinosaurs shared the earth. And greenhouse gases have absolutely no effect on weather. Somebody stop me…..
warjoski Premium Member over 9 years ago
Anti Vaxxers come from all walks. Just because two of them are Republicans doesn’t make this a party Issue. Also, ‘that’ party isn’t making those statements. Just a handlful of them. Or should we start judging ‘that other’ party in total by some of their less savory members?
See DTroutMA’s post which sums it up nicely. And my statement still stands. The cartoon is non-partisan. Braindead tried to turn it into one.
Wendy Emlinger Premium Member about 9 years ago
I’m a liberal and I strongly support vaccinations. When I was young, there were no measles, mumps or chicken pox vaccines and the only immunity available was to live through the diseases and hope you survived the opportunist bugs that might take advantage of you while you were weakened. I’d rather spare a child all that misery with a vaccine that might make them a little ill from a weakened virus, than risk their lives by having them catch the full strength wild version. Their parents may have the ‘right’ to decide not to give their child a vaccine, but the parents do have a responsibility to protect their child from known harmful agents—putting poisons out of reach, securing their child in a car seat to protect them from injuries in vehicular accidents, not exposing them to dangerous animals—and a host of other dangers. And, I’m sorry, but viruses are one of those known dangers. To not vaccinate your child (unless they’re allergic to eggs) is the height of irresponsibility.
moosemin about 9 years ago
Last night (Friday) on Bill Maher’s show, one of his guests was Mariane Williamson. While discussing those who are against vaccines, she suggested that for many, it may be not so much that they don’t trust the vaccine itself, but that they may distrust the pharmaceutical companies that make them. After all, in the past some of these serum manufacturers have lied to the public, and now, like the government (whom we know NEVER lie to us, Repub or Dem) many won’t believe their claims. Interesting take on the debate.
leweclectic about 9 years ago
If we, Homo sapiens, do not take hold of the science and do what is necessary…then Mother Nature will step-in and do it Her way…and that will not be pretty.