Tom Toles for December 29, 2014

Hmmm, which one is close personal friends and business partners with that other royal family? You know, the Saudis.

Well, that pretty much makes you a liar. All those fake accusations have been repeatedly disproven. And since you can’t speak civilly, you once again show that you have nothing to offer the conversation.

Let’s be accurate when refuting the rightwingnuts. Clinton WAS impeached. That was the action by the House. He was then tried and cleared of the bogus charges by the Senate. Today he is our most popular living ex-president. Jeb Bush is related to two of the others.

As for Whitewater and Benghazi, both bogus charges which have been completely and utterly refuted, which is why they keep bringing it up. It’s all they’ve got.

Being impeached is like being indicted, it means there is enough evidence of wrongdoing to justify a full-fledged investigation and trial. It does not mean that anyone is guilty of anything. This is why grand juries almost always indict. They only fail to indict if the case against the defendant is terribly poor … or if the prosecutor doesn’t actually want an indictment, as in the case of one of the prosecutor’s friends, relatives, or colleagues (i.e. the police), to whom the prosecutor wants to give the benefit of the doubt, or whom the prosecutor wants to protect.

David Brooks predicted in jest some years ago that it is going to be Bushes and Clintons from now on. Hillary will win 2016 and 2020, Jeb Bush in 2024 and 2028, and Chelsea Clinton in 2032 (she’ll be 52 by then) and 2036, and by 2040 there’ll be another Bush available. The times they aren’t a-changing … yet.

What about RAND PAUL?

“And which one is a thieving Whitewater lawyer “wife” of a philandering, impeached president? Oh and a disgusting liar about the murders in Benghazi?”1) President Clinton was investigated by a Republican Congress for most of his time in office. The only thing they could nail him on was lying about receiving oral sex.2) I don’t criticize Laura Bush for her husband’s failings, why are you criticizing Hillary Clinton for her husband’s?3) Republicans have investigated Benghazi 8 times and have cleared Clinton and Obama of wrong doing each time. But hey, maybe Republicans will find something on the 20th or 30th investigation.The Clintons are Reagan centrists. The reason Republicans don’t like them is they’re not Republicans.

“Better than a nutter or an idiot, which is all the rethuglicans can manage.”.A bowl of stew would have made a better president than Obama and Hillary is cut from the same cloth. She is closer to him ideologically than her benevolent rapist husband.

Jase99: 1. This was because the Starr Chamber defined “sex” as strictly vaginal to get the quote, then switched the definition back to how most people define it in order to gain impeachment..lonecat: Jury nulification was established back in colonial days in the case of Crown v. William Penn, when the jury held out for acquittal despite being imprisoned and fined until they convicted in a marsupial manner. Public opinion forced the crown to capitulate, and the jurors were vindicated. This is still stere decisis.

On “Dynasties”: Why don’t they run Linda Evans and Joan Collins, cat fight!

Honestly, the one good reason to vote for Hillary is because her election really WOULD make wingnut conservative heads explode. Once that mess was cleaned up, the world would indeed be a (somewhat) better place.

“Reagan wasn’t a “centrist” and the so called “center” is over in Right Wing territory. Both Clintons and Obama are Right Wingers.”I refer to Clinton and Obama as Reagan-Centrists because where Reagan was 30 years ago is the center today. Reagan’s policies look down right moderate in comparison to today’s political climate.

“Because Billy boy was the face, she the muscle.”You’re criticizing Hillary because of Bill’s affairs. That has nothing to do with her being “the muscle”“How many women did she use private investigators to dig up dirt on the women her husband seduced or raped?”You’re the one making the accusations, you tell me and provide the evidence to back up your accusations.

Was someone almost at the top of this thread, uh, excused?

I’m sure all our republican friends are honored that all the taxes they’ll pay in their lifetimes won’t finance one coffee break for the Starr Chamber witch hunt.

“This is what Dick Morris says.”I could quit my job and say it was because I saw my boss have sex with chickens. That’s still not legal evidence. I would need something to back up the claims. If he were saying the same thing of Laura Bush, the conservatives would be all over him to prove it.

Where are the Kennedys when we need them?

Not that I worship the Kennedys, but a 3-way contest is always more interesting than just 2.

Clinton did not lie to Congress. Bush and Cheney lied to Congress and to the American people. Do try to keep the facts straight.