This is the first November since statistics started being kept in 1937 that Toronto had no snow. You don’t have to convince me that the climate is changing.
Well, Ira, it was in the 50’s and 60’s all during June in Maine, and that convinced me that global “warming” is a sham. And, regardless of Toronto, it was snowing and cold in Colorado and Pennsylvania this past November. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence that we are simply not doing whatever “warming” we were warned about in the nineties.
To be honest, I don’t even feel like throwing a bucket of water on that fire, plenty of pieces of land on the earth could use some thawing, or milder weather. Didn’t notice coastal properties facing a steep decline in prices, either….
Under the Bush admin, the pentagon commissioned a study on the effects of global warming on global power politics (boy did Rush blow a gasket when he found out).
Based on some of the climate models, the report concluded that melting the polar ice caps would not only raise ocean levels but decrease salinity and shut down the gulf stream. The later resulting in more polar weather patterns shifting down over the US north east and northern Europe.
The report concluded that increasing drought and desertification creeping up from the equator and the polar weather patterns shifting off the north pole like a bad toupee would make a much narrower strip of really habitable land at the middle latitudes, causing contention for the nice spots.
In the US, interestingly, it said that Seattle looked to really improve by the changed weather patterns
Thanks, Crit74, I was just going to post that.
The climate of the earth has changed several times in the past. The vikings make their explorations to Iceland, Greenland & North America during a warm period and Europeans in the1600’s noted a cold period, that was called the Little Ice Age.
Long term trends caused by an increased population that is overly dependent upon today’s consumption of natural resources are not going to change soon.
The problem is subject to healthy debate not caustic derision.
If the folks in this toon are from the Copenhagen conference, they probably each took a limo to get to their reserved spot in line. Bunch of hypocrites.
human - quite right on your first point. As for one word in the Gospels, you might interpret the Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25: 14-30) as praising intelligence. (http://tinyurl.com/yfra4oh) In Catholic tradition, at least, this is interpreted broadly as not wasting the gifts God gave you. I don’t know if the pun on “talents” works outside of English, so I can’t say if that was true in the original Greek.
olfart, billdog, etc., I’ve been ignoring the more venomous trolls for a couple of weeks now, and will continue to do so unless one posts something thoughtful instead of merely splenetic.
It’s always colder in Montreal than Toronto. It’s always been normal to not see snow until close to Christmas here. And FYI, we’re going to get dumped on tonight to the tune of 30cm (aprox 11 inches for our American friends).
The corner comment IS important. Rivers ARE drying up.
“Heavy snow areas” aren’t getting any, “dry” areas have flooding, and “weather” abnormalities are all over the place. This is absolutely described in CLIMATE CHANGE models based on global warming.
Throw in square miles of floating plastic in the Pacific, and dying coral reefs due both temperature and chemical changes in the oceans, caused by HUMAN activities, and the evidence is overwhelming. The arguments against these facts are dismally UNDERwhelming, but comfort ignorance, stupidity, and simple greed. Speaking of maroons.
I hope the misogynist troll on here doesn’t pull a Marc Lepine. The Montreal massacre at the Polythechnique school happened 20 years ago last weekend and was caused by deep-rooted misogyny.
About the toon, I’m not sure climate change has to be real even or man-made for us to change our ways. Of course it serves as a great motivating boogey-man, which is why I think some people are skeptic. Lets be on the safe side (for future generations) and reduce our carbon footprint no matter what.
MurphyHerself - you’re confusing weather with climate. And one of the effects of warming is to add more energy into the climate cycle, meaning more violent changes in the weather. Across the Earth, average temperatures are rising; in a given area, the weather may go up or down, since weather is dependent on a lot of different things, including wind patterns, currents, El Niño, etc. And if some hypotheses are correct, we may get changes in prevailing wind patterns and ocean currents, which will dramatically alter weather for a given location. Note, for example, that the UK is roughly at the same latitude as Newfoundland, but has far warmer weather thanks to the warming effect of the Gulf Stream. If the Stream shifts direction, the UK will promptly drop in temperature - a LOT.
Doc, we got to 11 below zero F last night, maybe the same tonight. Guess what, the clipper still doesn’t convert science, which motive of course refers to. But DANG that wind chill is a BOOGER!!(frozen?)
Folks. C02 is not a “Poison” per se. Plants breathe c02, they take it in and expel oxygen as a by-product. The only reason the Lefty-commie-radicals have settled on it is that production of c02 accompanies all of the human activities they would like to eliminate. It serves as the “marker-die” in the environment by which the Libo-nuts can allocate penalties (i.e. taxes) to “offset” the supposedly high-resource-users. Funny how America is the only one at the table that has to make changes…If you support such a cock-and-bull idea as carbon offsets and global warming; well there ain’t much anyone can say to change your mind.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
I don’t want to post first. But I like Toles’ comment in the corner.
comYics over 14 years ago
So dont.
Sweet, come on global warming!
Rah! Rah! Sis boom bah! Global Warming! Yah!
aardvarkseyes over 14 years ago
This is the first November since statistics started being kept in 1937 that Toronto had no snow. You don’t have to convince me that the climate is changing.
HUMPHRIES over 14 years ago
Hey Ira N, Toronto isn’t the only place it’s happening.
HabaneroBuck over 14 years ago
Well, Ira, it was in the 50’s and 60’s all during June in Maine, and that convinced me that global “warming” is a sham. And, regardless of Toronto, it was snowing and cold in Colorado and Pennsylvania this past November. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence that we are simply not doing whatever “warming” we were warned about in the nineties.
To be honest, I don’t even feel like throwing a bucket of water on that fire, plenty of pieces of land on the earth could use some thawing, or milder weather. Didn’t notice coastal properties facing a steep decline in prices, either….
meetinthemiddle over 14 years ago
Under the Bush admin, the pentagon commissioned a study on the effects of global warming on global power politics (boy did Rush blow a gasket when he found out).
Based on some of the climate models, the report concluded that melting the polar ice caps would not only raise ocean levels but decrease salinity and shut down the gulf stream. The later resulting in more polar weather patterns shifting down over the US north east and northern Europe.
The report concluded that increasing drought and desertification creeping up from the equator and the polar weather patterns shifting off the north pole like a bad toupee would make a much narrower strip of really habitable land at the middle latitudes, causing contention for the nice spots.
In the US, interestingly, it said that Seattle looked to really improve by the changed weather patterns
crit74 over 14 years ago
I wish people would quit confusing “weather” with “climate.”
grapfhics over 14 years ago
Thanks, Crit74, I was just going to post that. The climate of the earth has changed several times in the past. The vikings make their explorations to Iceland, Greenland & North America during a warm period and Europeans in the1600’s noted a cold period, that was called the Little Ice Age. Long term trends caused by an increased population that is overly dependent upon today’s consumption of natural resources are not going to change soon. The problem is subject to healthy debate not caustic derision.
SClark55 Premium Member over 14 years ago
If the folks in this toon are from the Copenhagen conference, they probably each took a limo to get to their reserved spot in line. Bunch of hypocrites.
Magnaut over 14 years ago
piss on it
Motivemagus over 14 years ago
human - quite right on your first point. As for one word in the Gospels, you might interpret the Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25: 14-30) as praising intelligence. (http://tinyurl.com/yfra4oh) In Catholic tradition, at least, this is interpreted broadly as not wasting the gifts God gave you. I don’t know if the pun on “talents” works outside of English, so I can’t say if that was true in the original Greek.
Motivemagus over 14 years ago
olfart, billdog, etc., I’ve been ignoring the more venomous trolls for a couple of weeks now, and will continue to do so unless one posts something thoughtful instead of merely splenetic.
iamthelorax over 14 years ago
It’s always colder in Montreal than Toronto. It’s always been normal to not see snow until close to Christmas here. And FYI, we’re going to get dumped on tonight to the tune of 30cm (aprox 11 inches for our American friends).
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
The corner comment IS important. Rivers ARE drying up. “Heavy snow areas” aren’t getting any, “dry” areas have flooding, and “weather” abnormalities are all over the place. This is absolutely described in CLIMATE CHANGE models based on global warming.
Throw in square miles of floating plastic in the Pacific, and dying coral reefs due both temperature and chemical changes in the oceans, caused by HUMAN activities, and the evidence is overwhelming. The arguments against these facts are dismally UNDERwhelming, but comfort ignorance, stupidity, and simple greed. Speaking of maroons.
Antidote over 14 years ago
I hope the misogynist troll on here doesn’t pull a Marc Lepine. The Montreal massacre at the Polythechnique school happened 20 years ago last weekend and was caused by deep-rooted misogyny.
About the toon, I’m not sure climate change has to be real even or man-made for us to change our ways. Of course it serves as a great motivating boogey-man, which is why I think some people are skeptic. Lets be on the safe side (for future generations) and reduce our carbon footprint no matter what.
MurphyHerself over 14 years ago
Ira, Houston would probably like to send you it’s snow. We’re getting our first blizzard of the season tonight.
d_legendary1 over 14 years ago
Its hotter than a mothaluva out here in Florida and its December. Don’t tell me there’s no such thing as Climate Change.
d_legendary1 over 14 years ago
Hasn’t reached us yet.
Motivemagus over 14 years ago
MurphyHerself - you’re confusing weather with climate. And one of the effects of warming is to add more energy into the climate cycle, meaning more violent changes in the weather. Across the Earth, average temperatures are rising; in a given area, the weather may go up or down, since weather is dependent on a lot of different things, including wind patterns, currents, El Niño, etc. And if some hypotheses are correct, we may get changes in prevailing wind patterns and ocean currents, which will dramatically alter weather for a given location. Note, for example, that the UK is roughly at the same latitude as Newfoundland, but has far warmer weather thanks to the warming effect of the Gulf Stream. If the Stream shifts direction, the UK will promptly drop in temperature - a LOT.
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
Doc, we got to 11 below zero F last night, maybe the same tonight. Guess what, the clipper still doesn’t convert science, which motive of course refers to. But DANG that wind chill is a BOOGER!!(frozen?)
NoFearPup over 14 years ago
Folks. C02 is not a “Poison” per se. Plants breathe c02, they take it in and expel oxygen as a by-product. The only reason the Lefty-commie-radicals have settled on it is that production of c02 accompanies all of the human activities they would like to eliminate. It serves as the “marker-die” in the environment by which the Libo-nuts can allocate penalties (i.e. taxes) to “offset” the supposedly high-resource-users. Funny how America is the only one at the table that has to make changes…If you support such a cock-and-bull idea as carbon offsets and global warming; well there ain’t much anyone can say to change your mind.
aardvarkseyes over 14 years ago
I have been slimed by the master. Life is good.
NoFearPup over 14 years ago
Carbon monoxide poisoning has nothing to do with carbon dioxide.