We need to promote environmentally friendly sources of energy. That would create more jobs and remove the threat of sacrificing our health and lives for a resource that is dirty and limited.
The number of jobs its creating is not much and the amount of damage to the environment to include farmers and ranchers is far worse without any accountability.
Besides the pipelines, I’d like to see all the refineries shut down. When I worked for the City, I often had to drive past the local refineries. Even when it was a cloudless sunny day, it was overcast within a mile of the refineries. I also knew someone who lived near there who said that anything you left outside was soon covered in black particulate. Can’t be very healthy to work or live there.
I almost made the same comment as @Diat60, except I would have been sarcastic about it.
I guess some people are too dumb to realize that clean, alternative energy actually creates more jobs than outdated, harmful, pollutant energy sources.
Keystone Pipe Crude was never intended for sale in the USA. It was being piped to the Gulf Coast refinerys to process and moved offshore to sell without even paying taxes to us. I worked in that area (around Houston), monitoring emissions on plants (that hadn’t been grandfathered in by Bush) for several years. I am aware of 4 crude oil leaks numbering in hundreds of thousands of gallons in the Dakotas where they rely on underground aquifers solely for water.
So, tar sands. Tar embedded in sand is so thick and environmentally costly, It requires 5 gallons of water to extract 1 gallon (that’s on Canada) crude to pipe into Texas and Louisiana.
As for jobs. There over 700 refineries in Louisiana and Texas. Any loss should be minor. The refineries on the Gulf mostly train their already working engineers. No loss in jobs reported.
This is not the only Keystone project and not the onlyPipeline That leaks. That’s why people who live alongtheir routes protest them. There is certainly no way Biden could excuse them and tout himself as an Environmentalist.
Clean energy, infrastructure upgrade and repair, and environmental clean up[ are huge economic opportunities. Get trained, and get with it. Do you REALLY want to spend 30 years fitting pipes and studying hydraulics manuals?
It is said that in another couple decades or so all vehicles will be electric. For older fossil fuel cars will this ’On Board" warning signs be required ?
The Commission of the Canada Energy Regulator (Commission) has now approved more than 86 per cent of the detailed route of the Trans Mountain Expansion Project (Project). On June 4, the Commission approved 122 kilometres of the route in British Columbia [Filing C06676], or 12 per cent, of the entire pipeline route.Dec 4, 2020
Besides the violation of sacred territory and threat to water sources, loss of habitats, and the taking and crossing ranch lands, there is this: “The amount of land impacted by an oil spill in North Dakota is almost 10 times larger than initially reported, officials say. The disclosure comes about a month after the Keystone 1 Pipeline leaked about 383,040 gallons of oil.Nov 20, 2019”
I’m Canadian. I’m against tar sands oil extraction, additional pipelines like Keystone XL, a fossil-fuel economy, and all that stuff. I’m in favour of alternate energy sources, reduced energy consumption, public transit, and all that stuff. (My favourite tool would be steeply increasing carbon taxes.) However, I do think that this cartoon is a little over the top—there are already lots of pipelines and refineries, and pipelines are generally safer than trains. Keystone XL would be a step in the wrong direction IMHO, but hardly the end of the world, or as catastrophic as the cartoon suggests.
Within days when Pres. Trump took office, he removed all barriers to building the rest of Keystone. So why wasn’t it built? Was it because it’s more fun to complain?
Pickled Pete over 3 years ago
Jobs will be eliminated! . . But either you believe in green energy, or you want to continue on a path to destruction.
charliekane over 3 years ago
Hazardous, disrespectful . . . what’s not to dislike?
Diat60 over 3 years ago
Unless of course you’re an Albertan in Canada facing the loss of his job and home because Biden is Obama II.
Michael G. over 3 years ago
Can’t make an omelet …
Radish the wordsmith over 3 years ago
Just another failed republican Trump assault on the environment that has been shut down.
WestNYC Premium Member over 3 years ago
It was fun to see the Canadian PM Trudeau crying in his soup over the canceled deal.
brwydave Premium Member over 3 years ago
What? Me worry?
theoldidahofox over 3 years ago
China is by far the largest investor in the Alberta oil sands — a project with enormously adverse environmental effects.
monya_43 over 3 years ago
We need to promote environmentally friendly sources of energy. That would create more jobs and remove the threat of sacrificing our health and lives for a resource that is dirty and limited.
binghamcpa over 3 years ago
This was stopped last July https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/06/politics/keystone-xl-supreme-court-pipeline/index.html
ndblackirish97 over 3 years ago
The number of jobs its creating is not much and the amount of damage to the environment to include farmers and ranchers is far worse without any accountability.
Not the Smartest Man On the Planet -- Maybe Close Premium Member over 3 years ago
“…Because Biden is Obama II.” I hope!
Frankfreak over 3 years ago
Look at the information on this pipeline.
Midship Pipeline/Cheniere Energy must make good on the damages done to Farmers and Ranchers Oklahoma land!
RAGs over 3 years ago
Besides the pipelines, I’d like to see all the refineries shut down. When I worked for the City, I often had to drive past the local refineries. Even when it was a cloudless sunny day, it was overcast within a mile of the refineries. I also knew someone who lived near there who said that anything you left outside was soon covered in black particulate. Can’t be very healthy to work or live there.
Daeder over 3 years ago
I almost made the same comment as @Diat60, except I would have been sarcastic about it.
I guess some people are too dumb to realize that clean, alternative energy actually creates more jobs than outdated, harmful, pollutant energy sources.
Flatlander, purveyor of fine covfefe over 3 years ago
here’s a few more under your feet America
https://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas/wells-to-consumer/transporting-oil-natural-gas/pipeline/where-are-the-pipelines
Briwnys over 3 years ago
Keystone Pipe Crude was never intended for sale in the USA. It was being piped to the Gulf Coast refinerys to process and moved offshore to sell without even paying taxes to us. I worked in that area (around Houston), monitoring emissions on plants (that hadn’t been grandfathered in by Bush) for several years. I am aware of 4 crude oil leaks numbering in hundreds of thousands of gallons in the Dakotas where they rely on underground aquifers solely for water.
So, tar sands. Tar embedded in sand is so thick and environmentally costly, It requires 5 gallons of water to extract 1 gallon (that’s on Canada) crude to pipe into Texas and Louisiana.
As for jobs. There over 700 refineries in Louisiana and Texas. Any loss should be minor. The refineries on the Gulf mostly train their already working engineers. No loss in jobs reported.
This is not the only Keystone project and not the onlyPipeline That leaks. That’s why people who live alongtheir routes protest them. There is certainly no way Biden could excuse them and tout himself as an Environmentalist.
casonia2 over 3 years ago
Clean energy, infrastructure upgrade and repair, and environmental clean up[ are huge economic opportunities. Get trained, and get with it. Do you REALLY want to spend 30 years fitting pipes and studying hydraulics manuals?
The Love of Money is . . . over 3 years ago
It is said that in another couple decades or so all vehicles will be electric. For older fossil fuel cars will this ’On Board" warning signs be required ?
piper_gilbert over 3 years ago
The pipeline itself eliminates jobs. No one complaining about that.
Masterskrain Premium Member over 3 years ago
Yesiree, those 35 or so permanent jobs eliminated will REALLY hurt the economy! /S
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 3 years ago
@Diat60 – Right on!
Pgalden1 Premium Member over 3 years ago
The Commission of the Canada Energy Regulator (Commission) has now approved more than 86 per cent of the detailed route of the Trans Mountain Expansion Project (Project). On June 4, the Commission approved 122 kilometres of the route in British Columbia [Filing C06676], or 12 per cent, of the entire pipeline route.Dec 4, 2020
Besides the violation of sacred territory and threat to water sources, loss of habitats, and the taking and crossing ranch lands, there is this: “The amount of land impacted by an oil spill in North Dakota is almost 10 times larger than initially reported, officials say. The disclosure comes about a month after the Keystone 1 Pipeline leaked about 383,040 gallons of oil.Nov 20, 2019”
cherns Premium Member over 3 years ago
I’m Canadian. I’m against tar sands oil extraction, additional pipelines like Keystone XL, a fossil-fuel economy, and all that stuff. I’m in favour of alternate energy sources, reduced energy consumption, public transit, and all that stuff. (My favourite tool would be steeply increasing carbon taxes.) However, I do think that this cartoon is a little over the top—there are already lots of pipelines and refineries, and pipelines are generally safer than trains. Keystone XL would be a step in the wrong direction IMHO, but hardly the end of the world, or as catastrophic as the cartoon suggests.
rwsutton41 over 3 years ago
Within days when Pres. Trump took office, he removed all barriers to building the rest of Keystone. So why wasn’t it built? Was it because it’s more fun to complain?