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  1. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    A friend in need is a friend, screwed.

  2. katzenbooks45!

    katzenbooks45! said, almost 3 years ago

    Vietnam deja vu.

  3. The Wolf In Your Midst

    The Wolf In Your Midst said, almost 3 years ago

    Remember, you’re either with us or with the terrorists. If you’re with the terrorists, we’ll drop a bomb on you (and whoever else happens to be in the area); if you’re with us, we’ll just let the terrorists kill you instead.

  4. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, almost 3 years ago

    “3 Posts and he says nothing.”

    Watch out for the “pot and kettle” thing. It’s easy to dismiss another’s points; it’s another thing to address them intellectually.

  5. Enoki

    Enoki said, almost 3 years ago

    My statement was hyperbole, over the top. But, it is essentially true. Obama ignored immigration law with his “Dreamer” executive order. As distasteful as you might find the situation those children are in their situation as a result of the criminal act(s) of their parents.
    As for “…irrational hatred…” I have no such thing towards illigal / criminal entrants and immigrants. Given the facts on that population as a whole there is every reason to reject wanting them to become legal residents, let alone citizens.
    These are some of those facts:
    Approxmately two thirds have an 8th grade or less education.
    They are twice as likely to go to prison for a felony as legal citizens.
    They are 70% more likely to have gotten there for a violent crime.
    The gender distribution is approxmately 60 – 40 Male – Female.
    They are more likely to suffer from serious diseases or have a communicable one like TB.
    The average illegal has been caught more than one time entering the country and has on average been arrested for 7 serious crimes aside from illegal entry.
    Many have few useful job skills beyond basic labor.
    That doesn’t sound like a population we need in the US for any purpose.

  6. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago


    Source? According to the seriously conservative Cato Institute, “Data show immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than the native-born.“ Study after study shows immigrants are not likely to commit crimes here.


    I think your source must be Harley.

  7. Enoki

    Enoki said, almost 3 years ago

    @Uncle Joe

    Cato is wrong because they cite all immigrants mixing legal and illegal. When you look only at illegals the numbers are astounding.
    “In summary, for our study population of 55,322 illegal aliens, we found that:
    • They were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8
    arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-eight
    percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about
    18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11
    or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990.”
    ILLEGAL immigrants go to prison and commit crimes a lot, far more than the legal population does.

  8. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    ‘toon related: “W” did nothing for many of our translators in both Afghanistan AND Iraq who needed to “clear out” after helping our troops (including my son). I saw the same problem four decades ago in ’Nam. But apparently Joshua didn’t “off” the hooker who let his men in to open the gates to Jericho?

  9. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, almost 3 years ago


    Looked at your sources. You should read them yourself. This was not a study of 55,000 illegal aliens. It was a study of 55,000 illegal aliens who had been arrested on a criminal charge. Make a study of any 55,000 people who have all been arrested, and you will get very different results compared with 55,000 people randomly chosen. All this study says is that illegal aliens who engage in criminal activity may be proven to be the sort of people who engage in criminal activity. Who would have expected that?!

    Tell you what: if you agree to a path (with penalty) to citizenship for all illegal immigrants with PERFECTLY CLEAN RECORDS, we will absolutely agree than any illegal immigrant arrested and convicted of a crime, any crime, will be instantly deported. Fair enough? If they are all the criminals you claim them to be, then none will qualify or make it though the process. Deal?

  10. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, almost 3 years ago

    Illegal aliens are guilty of a crime: crossing the border without permission. Anyone who gets a speeding ticket is also guilty of a crime. Each should pay for his crime. The question is, what should the penalty be? Expulsion for the one, no matter how long they’ve been, how much this has become their home, no matter what they have contributed to the country, no matter how squeaky clean their records have been since they’ve been here? “The law’s the law.” Well, then, if you violate the traffic laws, you should be barred from driving for life. Perhaps you should not even be permitted to ride in a car. Or maybe you should go to prison. After all, you broke the law! “The law’s the law.” What part of illegal do you not understand? Why shouldn’t you go to jail for driving illegally?

    Or just maybe a lesser punishment is enough. Just because you ONLY had to pay a fine for speeding does not mean that you received amnesty. Just because the penalty you pay for crossing the border without permission, or staying longer than you had permission to stay (many illegal immigrants enter the country legally) is less than expulsion, does not mean you’ve received amnesty.

    But this line of reasoning is too … what? … subtle? … complex? … for some folks.

  11. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago


    Thanks Doughfoot, I looked at the reports & just started shaking my head. The reports are specific to people who have been convicted. It is not an analysis of the greater population.

    Enoki, most of the things your report says about the illegal immigrants that are in the penal system, apply to the Americans who are in the penal system. As TM said, Obama has been much more aggressive in deporting illegal immigrants than any predecessor. The deportations aren’t just for felony convictions, but include misdemeanors & traffic violations.

    Like Doughfoot, I have no problem deporting serious criminals. Objective evidence & my subjective experience tell me that your claim about “the average illegal” has nothing to back it up, except bigotry. It’s not hard to find old newspaper reports of how the Irish, the Germans, the Italians & the Slavs were going to ruin our country because of their thuggish, criminal natures.

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