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Tom Toles

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  1. Gary McSpook

    Gary McSpook said, over 3 years ago

    And then guess what happens; I get found “Not Guilty” for killing you. Pretty good for me; sucks to be you.

  2. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, over 3 years ago

    Maybe if Lil T was taught correctly as a kid, things would’ve of just went like this:
    Z-man: Hey what are you doing here kid?
    Tray-Mart: I’m going home. Mind your own business.
    They then both go home angry, but alive.
    Instead, the 17 year old gets thuggish and starts throwing punches.
    Lesson to kids: a lot of bad things can happen when you start a physical alteration. So don’t!

  3. ARodney

    ARodney said, over 3 years ago

    That’s assuming that Zimmerman was telling the truth. We’ll never hear Trayvon’s side, because he was shot dead. And that’s legal in Florida. Warning: if someone starts following you in Florida, shoot first. Shooting is legal, punching is not.

  4. jnik23260

    jnik23260 said, over 3 years ago


    We’ll never know if Treyvon actually said that. We don’t know if Z-boy then grabbed him, causing Trayvon to defend himself.
    Z-boy told the detective that he did identify himself to the kid as a neighborhood watchman. He wore no uniform or badge.Your idea that any black person must submit to questioning by any white man is so 19th Century that perhaps you should go back to the 1840’s and get a job as a “Patyroller”!

  5. jnik23260

    jnik23260 said, over 3 years ago

    Good job, Toles! You described Florida’s “Self – Defense” laws exactly!

  6. Stipple

    Stipple said, over 3 years ago

    Laws are found in the courts.
    Justice is found in the streets.
    Zimmerman is still waiting for justice. Hope it finds him.

  7. taratus

    taratus said, over 3 years ago

    Florida is sinking anyway. Move out while you still can. Your homes are uninsurable and your water increasing brackish. Pythons eat your pets. Why not move to New York? We also have steamy heat in the summer and all the water you can drink.

  8. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 3 years ago

    If Trayvon had been armed and “felt threatened” by Zimmerman stalking him, the law says he could have shot Zimmerman “in self defense.”

    It was perhaps because of ambiguous situations like this that, in the 19th century and in most states (especially violence-prone ones like Tennessee), the carrying of a concealed weapon (gun or fighting knife) was outlawed as “cowardly” and “unmanly.”

    Even assuming the worst about Martin, that he started the fight because he didn’t like being followed around, he would have to have been a blithering idiot to have attacked someone he knew had a gun. There is no evidence that he was more of an idiot than any other 17-year-old. (Unless, just possibly, he knew Z was armed, was convinced he was about to be shot, and was making one desperate bid to save himself.) Any way you look at this, Zimmerman started it by following Martin against the express words of the police not to. And whatever Zimmerman “felt” it is inconceivable that Martin would have actually killed him in this situation (though he might have done him more harm than he did.) Zimmerman did not intend to provoke a fight, but he did provoke it. If he had not been carrying a gun, he would have been more cautious. Zimmerman may have acted within the law, as the jury said, but he is nevertheless fully responsible for Martin’s death.

    “Stand your ground” laws are meant well, but combined with concealed weapons, the results are predictable. And properly expressed by the cartoon. That’s why more than one editorial has call this trial a miscarriage of justice, but not a miscarriage of law.

  9. cdward

    cdward said, over 3 years ago


    How do you know what went down? Oh yeah, because the guy on trial for murder said so. It doesn’t matter one bit how Trayvon Martin talked or looked. You assume Zimmerman had the right to approach and question Martin in the first place. That’s NOT what neighborhood watches are supposed to do. They are supposed to report suspicious activity to the police and NOT approach the supposed suspicious character. Zimmerman simply did not do what he was supposed to do. This is an adult in a car with a gun against a smaller kid on foot with Skittles. Please – Zimmerman chose to get into this situation.

  10. meetinthemiddle

    meetinthemiddle said, over 3 years ago


    Of course, if the Z-man had started with the line you gave him, this might not have happened either

  11. meetinthemiddle

    meetinthemiddle said, over 3 years ago


    Norman Mailer had a saying “Run from a knife, but charge a gun.” Point being that since a gun works at a range, running is less effective. Martin could have come to the same conclusion, but we’ll never know.

  12. pdchapin

    pdchapin said, over 3 years ago

    If Zimmerman had done what any reasonable person would have done, which is back off when the police told him to, Martin would be alive. That’s practically textbook definition of manslaughter. The murder charge was a stretch and confused the issue.

  13. realthog

    realthog said, over 3 years ago

    We now know he was looking to get an illegal gun but just had not yet.

    We know nothing of the sort. Come back to the real world from Planet WooWoo.

  14. moderateisntleft

    moderateisntleft said, over 3 years ago

    @Gary McSpook

    I gues the rule in FLA is: if someone is following you, just shoot them before they shoot you.

  15. Rockngolfer

    Rockngolfer said, over 3 years ago

    As someone pointed out to me yesterday, the Stand Your Ground Law was not used in the trial, which I thought was incredible.
    Next up, Federal hate crime charges.

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