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  1. omQ R

    omQ R said, about 3 years ago

    I don’t count 99 folks in that circle…

  2. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, about 3 years ago

    In case you have not noticed it yet, the deficits (which by their very existence are directly responsible for the National Debt) have been decreasing slowly but steadily since 2009. These same deficits are projected to become lower than the average of the deficits of the eight years of the GW Bush administration by the time president Obama leaves the presidency in 2016. Then the deficits are slated to get down to somewhere near zero by the year 2020 if nothing else interferes with the current projections of most economists. However, after that they could start back up if there are no moderate changes made to entitlement programs and defense spending. From what I have read this is not a direct result of either congressional or White House policies, but a result of natural economic changes in the country. But, it is happening, although perhaps more slowly than many would like.

  3. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    This one really troubles me too.

    I think he is trying to say that somehow the rich got an unfair advantage in the economy. The way I see it, anyone that saved some of what they made and invested it in the stock market is doing pretty well now.

    My wife and I aren’t rich but we always set aside 10% to 20% of our income each year and invested in a diversified portfolio. We took a hit like everyone else when the stock market dropped but it came back and we are better off now then before the crash because we snapped up some really good bargains as people sold in a panic.

    I live in the midwest and I’m not blind to the change in jobs available but I don’t see any shortage of work for people who work hard and invested in themselves through education and work experience.

    The game isn’t rigged. The economy has always telegraphed that it will favor those who continue to increase their jobs skills, live within their means, and save for a rainy day. All the virtues that conservatives encourage lead to a situation that the progressives claim only occurs through being lucky.

    Stay in school kids!!!!

  4. ARodney

    ARodney said, about 3 years ago

    The point of the strip is based in reality, so it’s no wonder Harley doesn’t get it. The benefits of Obama’s economic recovery have gone only to the richest 7%. The lower 93%, including the middle class and poor, lost a lot in housing values, and as the recovery has continued (with the stock market reaching record highs) the 93% have had their earnings and savings trickle away. There is a class war in America, and the rich have been winning for over 30 years. It does not bode well for the future. The expiration of the Bush tax cuts on the very rich was a step in the right direction, but it’s the ONLY step. The vast cuts and sequester vastly outweigh it with the damage to the country and its citizens.

  5. ARodney

    ARodney said, about 3 years ago

    Working hard and saving is not how most Americans get rich. Having a rich daddy is much more common. Didn’t you see the GOP’s celebration of “entrepreneurship” where they gave an award to the Koch brothers?

  6. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    @ARodney – Let’s use your 93% for a moment. I haven’t checked the BLI of late but I’m pretty sure I am part of the 7 and not the 93.

    What do you claim has been done to you that you feel you are under siege. I and most of the people with whom I associate make our living by going to work.

    Are we accused of warfare because we spend less in local stores and more at Amazon?
    Are we accused of warfare because we reject a tax model that robs us of the fruits of our labor so that it can be distributed to those who can’t or won’t find a job?
    Are we accused of warfare because we are still doing well while others aren’t – Because we made better decisions?

    It seems to me that the warfare is being waged by the “have nots” who vote for politicians that want to raise my taxes not to pay off the debt or to create infrastructure and security but to hand it out as largess in the form of: Welfare, Medicare, Foodstamps, Unemployment benefits, Free Phones, Social Security Disability and a host of others.

    You didn’t get YOURS. I get that. But I have to ask – Do you really believe you are in your situation because “DA MAN” was holding you down? Or are you willing to be an adult and recognize the choices you made that put you in your current situation. And I challenge you to be more of an adult and start considering what you can change to put yourself on a better path.

    I don’t know anyone that was born with a silver spoon in their mouth. And I don’t know anyone that didn’t make mistakes. In my experience what separates the successful from the unsuccessful is the willingness to learn from a mistake and make different decisions the next time.

    It isn’t class warfare to say “I’m tired of seeing all my tax dollars go out as handouts.” It is Class warfare to assume that everyone doing well is there because they got an unfair advantage.

    Grow Up!!!

  7. magicwalnut

    magicwalnut GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    No, the rich got there by either inheriting, or profiting from tax loopholes. And you can’t tell me that some CEO works any harder than a single mother working two menial jobs and raising a family without the help of a nanny…

  8. magicwalnut

    magicwalnut GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    @Mephistopheles

    I think “live within your means” is probably the key. I was raised by a neurotically frugal stepfather, who, when he died, left me his stash. I never spent a penny of it, and 30 years later was able to retire comfortably, with a $299 a month mortgage. I still have to argue with myself over a five dollar watermelon, but I have everything really need and most of what I want. The advent of the credit card really screwed things up, IMO.

  9. jack75287

    jack75287 said, about 3 years ago

    @magicwalnut

    Maybe not but they do deny themselves more often. Bill Gates lived in his first office for over a year. Colt did tours in Canada showing off the effects of either to earn the money for his first factory. They show focus at an early age.

  10. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, about 3 years ago

    Some of us are not saying that we should punish the rich, but instead should make it easier for the less-well-off to do better. One way to do this would be to make health care truly available to everyone. Another would be to improve employability by getting rid of worthless drug laws, especially concerning marijuana.

    I think we can all agree that the amount of time, energy, and effort expended on work can have very little impact on income. I think this is where people have problems with “the rich”. It’s not always about conscious choices.

  11. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    @Nantucket – Those CEOs with their salaries that you decry have to answer to a board of directors that think they are worth that much. You show a woefully small knowledge of how corporations work. And I applaud any CEO that can get the same productivity from 5 workers that he got yesterday from 6. It shows that he is focusing on the bottom line and making his company more valuable (creating wealth for his shareholders).

    My wife and I started our careers with $100 (literally between us but worked hard and scrimped and saved so that we could send our kids to college without them having to incur debts. And Still I think I WAS born on third base because my parents taught me: The value of the dollar, the value of hard work, and the wisdom to choose wise investments.

    I work with people who were born into poverty but lifted themselves up using the same formula: Thrift, discipline, and hard work. I don’t look down on anybody because of the amount in their bank account. But I do look down on those who claim that they didn’t get a fair shot and therefor they are entitled to use the power of the federal government to loot the wealth of others. I sneer at those that think that by virtue of being born into America that they are somehow better judges of how the Koch brothers or Bill Gates, or Paris Hilton should distribute their wealth. Whether you do it with a gun or you use the Government’s tax authority, looting is morally wrong. You aren’t entitled to the wealth created by others.

    Yes people have bad breaks and I see it all the time. I still judge a person by how they rise above their misfortune. You apparently judge them by how much you can loot from them.

  12. lafayetteann

    lafayetteann said, about 3 years ago

    @Mephistopheles

    Dear Meph,
    I enjoyed your justification for your wealth and comfort. Mine? I inherited it. Before my inheritance my husband and I worked hard, using the advanced degrees we earned – but we never got ahead financially. Raises never kept up with inflation or increased costs of living as our children grew. We would have been unable to secure a good retirement and put our children through college, especially after our slim portfolios took a 40% hit in the great recession. But now — well, thanks to my parents inheriting just the right piece of real estate and selling just before the crash — now, we can retire comfortably, send the kids to college, and leave them an inheritance. The moral of my story is — think hard about all the people and connections that helped you get where you are. Are you truly a self-made story? Did you have a little help somewhere along your climb up the ladder? Or were you born atop the ladder?

  13. still the mom

    still the mom said, about 3 years ago

    Love the comment in the corner

  14. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, about 3 years ago

    The wealthy have the funds to make the laws to benefit them. If those laws happen to benefit others not so well off, then great, but the laws are going to be made anyway. And NO, I do not have the answer (even if there is one), but then neither does anyone else that posts on such forums as this one!
    Just keep on trucking, and hope for the best!!!

  15. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, about 3 years ago

    Either I didn’t make my point well, or you missed it. I apologize in either case.

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