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  1. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, 2 months ago

    Only about 2% of voters even care about pushing for homosexuals to get married and half of those are cartoonists.

  2. sjc14850

    sjc14850 said, 2 months ago

    @ConserveGov

    Actually, a CNN poll (yes, I know it’s not a scientifically valid one, but it is instructive) just showed that over half of all voters say that a politician’s position on this would affect their votes. And a Washington Post-ABC poll (which is scientifically valid) shows that support for marriage equality has gone up from 41 percent to 58 percent since 2004.

  3. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe said, 2 months ago

    @ConserveGov

    Got anything to back up that lie?

    A strong majority of Americans now support same sex marriage. Only one third of Republicans support gay marriage, but that’s up from 10% in 1994 & 19% in 2009.

    The overwhelming majority of voters younger than 30 support same sex marriage, regardless of political affiliation.

  4. Mark

    Mark said, 2 months ago

    It must be frightening to see ones bigotry become a thing of the past.

  5. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, 2 months ago

    @Mark

    As long as the separation of the church and state is maintained by the government (state as well as federal) NOT forcing religious organizations to have to sanctify such marriages, then I can see no reason why civil privileges should not be the same for gay civil unions as heterosexual marriages. In fact I do not think that such unions should even be called marriage, as this implies that they are sanctified by churches. If they are called civil unions and are sanctioned by governments to provide civil privileges, then that is fine with this particular Christian.

  6. saywhatwhat

    saywhatwhat said, 2 months ago

    @Robert Landers

    I was sort of, of the same opinion about the name thing until I realized that “getting married” actually happens when you sign that contract provided by your local State government. What happens in front of the audience is up the the master of ceremonies (church or otherwise) and has no legal impact. So your church can “do it” or not, but deciding what to call it, is not in your hands.

  7. saywhatwhat

    saywhatwhat said, 2 months ago

    Tom draws a great elephant. (IMHO)

  8. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, 2 months ago

    @Robert Landers

    Well, my church would be happy to sanctify gay marriages, but we are forbidden by state law from doing so. How would you like to have some of the marriages your church approved denigrated and banned because of the opinions of the prejudices of people outside your religion?

    Civil unions, domestic partnerships, etc., have also been declared invalid in my state by constitutional amendment.

    The only hope my gay friends have of justice in this state is through the action of the big bad federal government, probably in the form of the Supreme Court. Just as it took court action 50 years ago to break my state’s anti-miscegenation laws. I don’t always agree with what my nation does, but I even less often agree with what my state does. So I have little patience with those who would castrate the national government in order to strengthen the state governments.

  9. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore said, 2 months ago

    Saywhat: My opinion also.Churches, especially conservative ones, cry crocodile tears about “government interference”, yet continue to have their ministers sign off on civil documents for marriage. Let’s call them ALL civil unions, OFFICIALLY, and let churches call it “marriage”!

  10. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore said, 2 months ago

    BTW: Congrats to Senator Portman. I know this was a hard personal decision. Unfortunately, “gay” is not usually an obviously visible minority.

  11. Ms. Ima

    Ms. Ima said, 2 months ago

    Divorce lawyers love gay marriage.

  12. mikefive

    mikefive said, 2 months ago

    @Ms. Ima

    And I rather imagine judges hate a gay divorce.

  13. Nantucket19

    Nantucket19 said, 2 months ago

    Call the LEGAL part of this a civil union for EVERYONE. Allow all rights currently held by marriage. Then the religious can call their church ceremonies marriage which has no legal significance.

  14. onguard

    onguard said, 2 months ago

    I thought Gays were nice honest people…………Why are they trying to Steal a Name?…..Marriage!

  15. TheTrustedMechanic

    TheTrustedMechanic said, 2 months ago

    @sjc14850

    “And a Washington Post-ABC poll (which is scientifically valid) shows that support for marriage equality has gone up from 41 percent to 58 percent since 2004.”
    And there you have the only reason why politicians are coming forward with a position on this topic. I may be wrong but it seems the Democrats are finally emboldened to speak their true feelings because of the public sentiment on the topic and they were too cowardly to speak out before. The republicans on the other hand are merely strategizing, no genuine sentiment allowed.unless of course, in the case of personal benefit within one’s family where a family member identifies as homosexual. Typical hypocrites the whole lot (politicians in general).

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