Pat Oliphant for March 22, 2012
Transcript:
Man: We got this beautiful law in Florida, says you can shoot anyone, anywhere, anytime. And you can call it self defence. And I ain't had a chance to shoot nobody yet! I'm goin' out and get me a burglar or sumpn. Well, looka that - there's some black kid sneakin round and he's carryin sumpn, too. Oh, perfeck! OK, balck kid! Hold it right there! Cop: What's the story here? Man: He come straight at me with an ice tea! Looked like a gun to me. But I got him good, huh? Punk: He was carrying candy too, Officer.
Simon_Jester about 12 years ago
But what’s to stop THIS from happening next?
“Theh he starts to get out his car, and I hear him say, “Hey, I know you, you’re the brother of that punk I popped two weeks ago!.” Next thing I know, he’s reaching inside his belt.,and…
What can I say? I had no choice, I mean, he killed my brother, right? Why WOULDN’T I feel threatened.by that guy?"
jnik23260 about 12 years ago
Next panel, the cop replies: “OK, I believe you. Just go on home.”
chazandru about 12 years ago
I lived in a Mississippi town of less than 450 ppl in the 60’s and, as a white child, was often punished for – running in the hall, or talking to loud, or whatever excuse the white principal wanted to use…it all came down to the fact I was playing with black kids. Living in navy housing part while in Tidewater, Va. made be believe your friends were your friends no matter their color, but returning to Mississippi was culture shock. I knew kids who lost family members to white people who NEVER went to jail even for a night. I grieve the loss of this young man and his potential as a loss to our nation. Did Zimmerman kill one who would have been agreat doctor, athlete, soldier, researcher…. We’ll never know. All that potential died in shock, terror, and disbelief. His body was tested for drugs and alcohol, and his killer was sent home despite 59 false alarm 911 calls and the violation of Neighborhood Watch rules regarding firearms.
It sounds alot like Mississippi in the ’60s.Respectfully..but with sadness…C
alan.gurka about 12 years ago
I think that’s despicable. I don’t like Obama, but I wouldn’t use the “n” word to describe him. To quote an obviously rascist comment, hidden within the misspelling of “renege” is pathetic and ignorant.
leaman100 about 12 years ago
More African Americans kill African Americans than Whites kill African Americans, but yet no one cares.
ossiningaling about 12 years ago
@algurka – You are missing @andylyke’s point. He quoted what the bumper sticker actually says – deliberate misspellings and all.
SaltWaterCroc about 12 years ago
Yet another NRA law. I’m surprised that they didn’t argue that if Traylon had been armed, he would still be alive today. I dropped any support of the NRA after their Columbine defense.
Simon_Jester about 12 years ago
And here’s another scary thought. How many times have we heard rightwingers on this board say they feel THREATENED by Barack Obama?
No, of course not….nobody here would ever do a thing like that anyway.
But can you say the same thing for the public at large? What’s to stop some misinformed fanatic with five gun-safes in his baesment from deciding that a Stand Your Ground Law DOES give him that right?
mnsmkd about 12 years ago
come on, Radish, get the R and D our of your comments! It’s a sad situation and should not be politicised!
dshepard about 12 years ago
Pat, I can feel the breeze of your jumping to conclusions all the way here in Wyoming.
walruscarver2000 about 12 years ago
We must stop this reckless use of tea. (Without treading onb the rights of the states, of course.)
SABRSteve about 12 years ago
Is Jesse Jackson going to march in protest?
cwsprague about 12 years ago
Wow, I haven’t seen so much tolerance and so many assertions of innocent until proven guilty in my life. I love it that so many mind readers just KNOW what was in that guy’s head. Almost borders on believing in stereotypes, doesn’t it? Do we still do that these days?
Uncle Joe Premium Member about 12 years ago
What the NRA really is, is a $200 million lobbying industry that long ago ran away from common sense regarding firearms law. I guess we’ll have to see how many more people use this poorly written law to shield themselves from prosecution for what is murder.
catfish007 Premium Member about 12 years ago
Sad but true – the NRA thinks any control is too much control and the old bs about only criminals having guns would be laughable if innocent people were not being killed and maimed!
Nebulous Premium Member about 12 years ago
The ‘Stand Your Ground’ law is supposed to be a Defense, not a ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ card.After a PROPER investigation, the DA might decide not to charge you, or if it went to a trial, the Jury might accept that defense for an acquittal.In the Sanford, FL case, there wasn’t a proper investigation. ( “Not enough evidence to arrest him” my … foot. )NOW there is going to be one.
Leticia Shelley about 12 years ago
I agree with leaman100; every day I see on the news about another African American man who beats a baby to death…where are the mothers going on the Today Show to weep for their baby or the African American Leaders who scream to stop such atrocities?Where’s everyone here screaming that a poor baby didn’t do nothing…no even wear a hoodie but yet was killed…and for what, crying maybe and he can’t fight back??
dfowensby about 12 years ago
sooo…the kid’s slicing him up with a knife was ok by you all, eh? last time i checked, being cut up by someone was stupid, if you had a gun and didn’t use it…i believe it IS called self defense.
pam Miner about 12 years ago
defowensby, where did you hear that crazy story? It was a kid with some candy. Think the kids was going to beat him up with his skittles?
Call me Ishmael about 12 years ago
sadly, you are quite correct.
leweclectic about 12 years ago
Hate-HateFirst a solider in Afghanistan murdered innocents, now another in Ameri-stan murdered once again our innocents …just like the a French Algei-stan murdered innocents in Toulouse-a-stan…will the hate never ever thin least of all in Ameri-stan?
Simon_Jester about 12 years ago
He’s just trolling
mdblanche about 12 years ago
Have there been any arrests made, or are the police ignoring that case too?
lindz.coop Premium Member about 12 years ago
“little man-boys playing with firearms”
And providing the means for the “little man-boys” to shoot whatever happens to spook them today.
feverjr Premium Member about 12 years ago
23 other states now have “Stand Your Ground” laws. You can check on your state here……http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/03/23-other-states-have-stand-your-ground-laws-too/50226/
Rymlianin about 12 years ago
This bung-hole needs to spend 20 years dancing with Bubba.
redbaron1966 about 12 years ago
In New Hampshire, we have what is known, “The Castle Doctrine” which states that person can use deadly force on his own property, WITHOUT retreating from the purpetrator. This situation hasn’t had been used as of yet, but it does make things rather unsafe, because the law is basically used when a perpetrator, is somewhere where he should not be, as the law also states. That could be anywhere, on the street, in your home, or anyone else’s home.
Simply put, it is one thing when you are pretecting your property or your home. When you go outside of that, like that of Florida’s law, then NOBODY’S safe!
redbaron1966 about 12 years ago
Also, Nazi Germany had that law where they shoot first, ask questions later. If that is the Florida Law…and it sounds like it, then we are no better off than the Nazis.
dannysixpack about 12 years ago
looks like a case of vigilante justice may be in order.perhaps a second amendment solution?
what young black man could possible see zimmerman coming at him at any time in the future, and not stand his ground?
svenskabru2u about 12 years ago
So, when a Spanish kid kills a black kid like this, suddenly the Spanish kid becomes a middle aged pore white trash redneck? Please continue to expose your prejudices, Oplihant.
Ronald Johnson about 12 years ago
bashar327 about 12 years ago
That’s not actually how it works, and not actually how it went down. What’s coming out now is what I thought eventually would, one bone head looking for trouble got mixed up with another bone head who was more than happy to get into trouble, and the only sad part was that both bone heads didn’t kill each other.