Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for January 07, 2012

Amen

Who wrote the list????

Not of the list, not getting in. Unless you’re named “J-Lo”, and then you get a free pass.

Note that ego evolved from a rat.

1st gated community

All that precious evolution gone to waste!

Well, this is gonna get interesting….

Um…………. the Pope’s from New York? Get outa here!

Sounds like papal bull to me.

We evolved only far enough to deny our historic existence.OT Theres no thing on my Google.

What happened to Flo’s diner?

Okay, Why the Pope? Evangelicals are just as bad when it comes to denying reality.

But they are a bit harder to draw

I think it’s time we put that matter of happen with the catholic church and move on. They atoned for what happen and that’s that. It’s getting old now!

I wonder why the pope too? Catholics don’t have a problem with evolution or “old earth” ideas?

Pope, evangelicals???? It’s everywhere. Humans are like that.

oof. got that right. they’re all still running on a 1000 year old mistranslations-gorged bible, written by undernourished semi-literate monks. learn aramaic/biblical hebrew, and greek, then read the original stuff (or at least what the “church” hasn’t doctored up over the last 1400 years). nothing at all like what gets waved around on the street corners. ie: the romans didn’t crucify criminals, they hung them. crucifixion was a catholic church torture. not as roman-tic an end for a god, eh? XD

Noah’s Ark was a gated community that Rick Santorum would’ve approved of.

The only thing dumber than religion is evolution.

Would it be funny if the Catholic guy showed up at Heaven’s gates one day and Peter (or whoever..in the comics, it’s always Peter) says, “You’re not on the list?” How about the cave man guy? Just asking.

I don’t get it. Does anyone get this joke?

They all have to follow the list!

Because drawing the pope costume is easier than drawing an evangelical preacher that’s as easily identifiable.

FYI, the Catholic church does not deny the theory of evolution. That is obviously supposed to represent a Catholic bishop. Putting your ignorance on display for the world to see is not a pretty sight. In fact it makes you look asinine.

Kudos Wiley !!!! You nailed it.

So many good comments.

It’s all about monopoly…of hope and fear…present the desired opportunity, then have them pay various kinds of toll for entrance..ooops, I just got the angle about denying our basic heritage…thanks. Even funnier from that POV.

This strip, and many of the comments on it, are an anthology of misinformation and bigotry about religion in general, and Roman Catholicism in particular. I get Wiley’s joke, and I get that a bishop in his vestments is a convenient visual symbol for authoritarian religion. (As it happens, fundamentalists of every religion — including atheism — are the most small-minded authoritarians of them all. The Roman Catholic church has no problem with evolution or an old earth…but then where would the visual gag be?).Trying to sort all of this out would be like shoveling raw sewage: as much as you dispose of, more flows in to take its place, and I don’t have the energy for that this morning. So to all of you self-satisfied critics, I’ll simply say this: you’re like a man with a debilitating illness refusing his medicine because he doesn’t like the taste, and he thinks up the most elaborate reasons why the medicine must be unnecessary or even poisonous, and his physician is a depraved quack. The best I can hope for you is that you’ll sometime honestly wonder, “But what if I’m wrong, after all?” That’s all that any intellectually honest person needs..One more thing: all of the criticisms of religion, etc., actually have nothing to do with religion, but with the basic human nature of some of the people who follow their religion. With the best of intentions, as Scott Adams has put it, everyone is stupid sometimes. (Or worse, an asshole.) That would include agnostics and free-thinkers, my friends, as well as the most deeply religious. We all must start by tolerating each other’s imperfections.

Dem Catlicks?

The comments are more entertaining than the strip today.Wiley presumably had some concrete idea of what he wanted to communicate, but it doesn’t come across very clearly. The elements don’t cohere very well.

yeah, religion sucks……why is irrelevent…

Because the Pope leads a group of misanthropists, child molesters and rapists who think that whatever they do it’s women’s faults; who insist on no birth control, but do nothing to help raise the results; and who regularly violate their founder’s poverty and humility by dressing themselves in silks and satins, while the poor dress in rags, and decorate their castles in gold and jewels while the poor starve – sometimes, as in Rio, right on the castles’ doorsteps.

Faith: To believe in something despite a lack of quantifiable scientific evidence.

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Science: To believe in something based on quantifiable evidence.

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The two are not mutually exclusive, folks. This is more a crack at the closed-minded than a crack on any one religion. The Pope just makes for the easiest association for a group infamous for willful ignorance (remember Galileo? It took the Church three centuries to admit he was right about the Earth orbiting the sun).

Huh?

This is brilliant!

This is not a knock on any religion in particular. The garb of the cleeric is so to make it clear that the listholder is seen as a religious figure.

This is so devastatingly brilliant and courageous. Now draw the same cartoon with an Imam.

Anti-Catholicism is the last refuge of the bigot.

“…if you’re tolerating our imperfections, why do you feel so impelled to ‘try to sort all this out’? Perhaps, regarding the strip, the comments, and the criticism of religion, you’d do well to ask yourself, ‘But what if I’m wrong, after all?’”.That would be my imperfection, GatoCat. :) I’m a compulsive nitpicker and correcter — I always have been. I’m not proud of it, and I hate to think about how many times it must have made me a chore to be around, but there it is…. But I always welcome being corrected when I’m in the wrong: otherwise, I would continue to be wrong, and I don’t want that. (And I ask myself that question — “What if I’m wrong?” — all the time.).Anyway, what I’m carping about aren’t transcendent questions about Truth (God and religious belief) — I have my own convictions, for what I think are good reasons, but that’s something we each have to work out within ourselves..Rather, what hit my starter button are statements about religion, and Catholicism, that are wrong in the sense of being plain errors of fact. Incorrect. Objectively and demonstrably untrue. (Some may even be deliberate lies. But as a personal policy I prefer ignorance as an explanation over malice. It’s less unkind, and much more likely to be accurate.) That’s the “all this” that I declined to “sort out”, and having seen all of the other comments, I think I made the right choice. People who are that personally, rigidly invested in their own set of “facts” simply can’t be persuaded by opposing argument and proof — it just makes them dig in harder. Look at our current Congress if you want an example….

True, but, Evangelicals never had an Inquisition like the RCs, although I’m sure they would like to try.

You mean “Sex”? Yeah, odd how God made such a “monsterous evil filth” such an incredibly pleasurable experience. (As well as a biological imperative.) You’d think that He didn’t want us to do it at all ever. [/sarcasm] That’s why I long ago stopped listening to men who wear funny looking hats.

Number Six, Well played, sir! A perfect Non Sequitur comment!BTW, all religious dogma is just unbelievable…sue me…

Apples and Oranges

Evolution: concerned with the mechanics of creationFaith: concerned with the ‘why’ of creationOrganised Religion: man’s very flawed attempt at creation

Organized with a Z! Sorry Liza. Comics.com had a correction feature. Wish they would have kept that one.

Hope his statement isn’t infallible. I don’t want to quit the Church because I’m not on the list. By the way I saw the rat, fish, and the dinosaur in line. Do you think I can request an audience for my cat?