Tom Toles for October 27, 2016

Republicans are to greedy to allow America National Health Care like every other industrialized nation in the world has.

If single payer was implemented, or Medicare expanded, like the Dems suggested years ago, there wouldn’t be the convoluted mess of Obamacare. Thanks to Congress being in the pockets of the insurance companies.

Ordinary people are wealth generating mechanisms to the rich and powerful. Cheap entertainments that reinforce that status quo are like blinkers on us horses as we circle around the millstone.

Actually, there have already been death panels, but we can’t expect a no-info Leftist to admit that.As for ObamaCare:Having health care costs increase by 200% is certainly cause enough to put ObamaCare out of our misery.

Hey never, do you even READ the news?REPUBLICANS proposed an ACA system, then voted AGAINST it when a DEM proposed it!So let’s go back to the good ol’ days when we couldn’t get covered for pre-existing conditions, because the ACTUARIES decided it was TOO EXPENSIVE to cover us. Just go ahead and DIE!Talk about “Death Panels”,they’ve been wearing green eye shades for years!

…and how is the weather on Mars?

I have. MUCH better than the situation in the U.S.

Wonder if we should tell neverhillary that the Affordable Care Act used Romneycare as its template. Or that Trump inherited his money (and has far less of it than an intelligent person would, given that same kind of headstart, without his six bankruptcies so far).

on the comments of @#neverhillary as Thomas Paine said: “Trying to reason with someone who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to a dead man.”

Actually, there are death panels. They’re the people who work for insurance companies who get to decide what they will or will not pay for. Needless to say, since corporate profits are at stake, they use every trick in their very thick playbooks to figure out how not to pay. And hey, if several tens of thousands of people die as a result, maybe they’ll score a nice Xmas bonus.

Remember Brexit!

Trump can still win!

Never Hillary, you are an idiot and saying things seven times doesn’t make them true. The ACA is provide by private insurance companies. It is by definition NOT socialized medicine. Socialized medicine is always more efficient, for one thing.

Ah, so now it’s my turn to be taken to task.

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Government regulations, despite the disingenuous whining by corporations, have instilled a great degree of confidence in the buying public that American goods are of high quality. Not the cheapest, you understand, but more likely to be subject to recall if something is found wrong.

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Americans love to hate government agencies like the FDA and the EPA and FEMA, but if you find bugs or glass in your chili, or poison in your drinking water, or a natural disaster wipes out your community, isn’t it good to know that the government, even with its individual human frailties, is there to help?

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No, the truly rich and powerful (old money as well as new) basically depended on the government to get that way, if not by hard-to-meet regulations that improved their processes, then by lobbying efforts to give them an edge over competition. Read “God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater” for a satirical view of that.

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Did you ever read Saul Alinski? My friends and I did, and got a few laughs from his books.We thought they are actually ’60s satire meant to ruffle feathers of the pompous elite. The same pompous elite that thought long hair and beards on young people meant the end of civilization. How dare we not fight useless wars to improve the profits of corporations and the vanity of politicians?

That is good

Well, see, there are all these lines around states, tremendous lines, lines that are keeping insurance companies from giving incredible health care. That people need. Hard working people. That I can tell you.

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Once those lines are gotten rid of (make erasing motions in the air), those incredible insurance companies will give people health care that will be terrific. That I can tell you.

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Because there will be competition! Comp e TI tion. And it’ll be terrific! Te RIFF ic.

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My plan is perfect! PER fect! You can’t get a better plan than that.

Should we tell neverhillary that speaking objective reality is by no means being a “parrot”, whereas his/her/its posts are merely parroting dishonest (and in many cases insane) nonsense?

#neverhillary

If “socialized medicine” (aka a healthy citizenry is in the national interest) is a failure, why does every country in the world ether have it or want it? Why does every country in the world that has a higher standard of living than the US have it and has for decades?

obumacare pay bomus to hospitals that spend less on old persons —

So is the socialized subsidy of corporations to cover more people and limit their bumping them from paid for medical coverage. Capiche?

What did Alinski teach and on which page and paragraph do you read that?

Japan, UK, most of Europe, Scandinavia…they do quite well. Tax payer funded health care. In Japan they have also health care corps who are profit free and they have to fight over getting new clients. Anyone who does any research would find that.

The last two Democrat presidents are Neo-Liberals and helped to make sure we got the same thing a Republican would give us.

Don’t tell him about Dunning-Kruger. Tell him how to google…..

If we just eat a healthy amount of government cheeses and a balanced portion of corn syrup would we need any health insurance?

Careful of the #Anti Clinton trolls. They are lying as much as their orange leader, and his three stooges. I don’t like her either but the alternative is at least the end of a major political party and possibly the planet. Please use your fact checkers and ignore his lies.

dear night gaunt japan been in the dumps for years , euro is sinking fast , gb did not get out fast enough and if oil stays down much longer scandanavia will join them cb

Well, private industry death panels are just fine, because they’re in it for the money. What? This is basically what Republicans actually say!

WBR: And yet their health care is STILL more affordable than ours, and will CONTINUE to be as long as corporate interests prevail!It’s too bad that the health/insurance industry wasn’t around when TR was trust-busting!

For a First World Country we have inferior health care, but First Class medicine. Now how does that happen? For Profit is about profit, not about caring and curing and treating people. The twain shall never meet.

That is not a death panel, that is a panel of whiners.