OK guys, what is your beef with Pence other then he is a very conservative Republican. He has successfully lured away the producers from Illinois and Michigan (States that love to transfer wealth from the Producer to the lazy and stupid) and made Indiana a VERY financially solvent state. Millionaires that want to continue to work in Chicago, Detroit, and Cleveland have found a much more hospitable climate in Indiana i.e. Low taxes, Low tolerance for thuggery and disorder, well maintained infrastructure, etc. What’s not to like?
Is your distaste for him stemming from the fact that a Red State is doing great while the blue states around them fester or do you have something substantive on him that you can point too?
Pence’s distaste is obvious. In order to sit next to Trump, he has to hand out a different brand of crazy than his usual anti-woman, anti-secular nastiness.
And in 1999, Pence said smoking was unhealthy, BUT WOULDN’T KILL YOU!He’s also a major climate change denier, and anti-LGBT, anti-same sex marriage, anti-rights for anybody but Christians.PERFECTLY in line with the GOP platform!
The problem with crazy is there is a never ending supply, that bag will never be empty. The woman who was selling breadcrumbs on the steps of the church was a metaphor for why Mary Poppins came, to teach the children (and Mr. Banks) the value of charity. It was one of Walt Dinsney’s favorite songs because he felt it was the whole point of not only Mary Poppins, but of Disney. To think these two would be considering the merits of giving to charity is laughable (we have already seen how Trump feels about charity) but he sure does hand out his crazy with impunity.The blackbirds at the bottom is where this gets interesting – 24 may be the hours in the day: sitting on the bench with Pence handing out all his Trumpy crazy. Or this could go to the allusion of the monks during the period of the Dissolution of the Monasteries by Henry VIII. When Henry VIII got rid of the Catholic monasteries because he wanted to do as he pleased. Either interpretation seems viable in this case.
@Mad4U – I suspected as much. Personally I’m not socially conservative but I understand the need for a vice president who is. Trump needs someone to keep the evangelicals in his camp. He also needs some midwestern credentials which Pence brings.
I don’t usually associate anti-progressive with a lack of intelligence. Socially conservative, maybe, but not anti-progressive. I know a lot of smart people who are sick and tired of government enforced wealth distribution.
Conservative pundit David Brooks:“That was the choice Republican voters in the states faced throughout the primaries. Passing up the out-of-touch insiders, they went for an overflowing souffle of crazy incompetence in the form of Donald Trump.” As for Pence, he is not a conservative but a reactionary. Major difference.
@Night-Gaunt – When you enforce wealth distribution like the Federal Government does now – You steal from some neighborhoods to give to others. The Federal Government puts itself in charge of deciding who is deserving of largess and who is not.
When money is taken from me to give out somewhere else. That leaves less money for me to spend at Restaurants, Hardware Stores, Gas Stations, etc. Those businesses employ my neighbors and keep middle class jobs going.
As for the money flowing up. Nobody is forcibly taking it from the 99%. They freely give up their wealth in exchange for goods and services i.e. Groceries, Gas, Cable TV, Cell phone, etc. It is a voluntary transaction. Compare that to the government forcing me and others like me to give to a charity that we find counterproductive and wrong.
There are ways to help people out of poverty that don’t involve giving them money and making them dependent on the government for their very existence.
If you want to support the poor by just throwing money at it … Then throw YOUR money at it and leave me and my friends to use our money to help the poor in the ways we think are more successful.
To be clear – your way isn’t very successful. We have thrown trillions at the poor (war on poverty) since LBJ and we have just as many if not MORE poor then we had back then. Obviously the Federal Government way ISN"T working
Thanks. My husband asks me why I post since my replies fall on deaf ears of the original commenters. But if their statements stand without being refuted, others may start to believe the lies.Fox “News”, Swiftboaters, and birthers have all been very successful when their targets don’t want to “dignify” the lies with a response.
@Wabbit – About your concern for whether or not the poor support the economy – it is beside the point.
You want me to accept your premise that it is OK to take money from my community and ship it somewhere else to strengthen someone else’s community. And I won’t. The cities seem to have all sorts of ways to funnel tax payer dollars to their local charities. But we, out in rural America, continue to get fleeced so that the cities are comfortable.
Those dollars that are taken from me and my fellow taxpayers would have been used to purchase dinners in the local restaurants, cars at the local dealership, feed at the local mill for cattle or sheep, groceries in the local stores. All of those purchases employ locals in my community and keep my community strong. It’s a zero sum game when the Federal Government plays Robin Hood. I know you would like to tell yourself that those tax dollars are just coming from the wicked 1% but they are coming from the hard working 3% and the equally hard working 30%.
It is wrong!!!! It is Theft.
I am not an anti-taxer. I support paying taxes for things that benefit all of us: Infrastructure, National Defense, Roads, etc. I don’t support taxes being handed out to those who think work is too good for them.
@Wabbit – As for disability. I went to our local Social Security Office a year ago to get an SS card for my son so he could get his driver’s license. The room was full of young able bodied people sharing and swapping strategies for convincing the local Social Security Office that they deserved SSDI becuase they were too sick or injured to work.
One little darlin was even noting that her neighbor figured out how to get her daughter on SSDI because they convinced the office that she had mental issues.
So don’t tell me it’s too hard to get on Social Security Disability – It’s entirely too easy if you ask me.
Dtroutma almost 8 years ago
They’ve been emptying the bag themselves, not feeding the birds.
Mephistopheles almost 8 years ago
OK guys, what is your beef with Pence other then he is a very conservative Republican. He has successfully lured away the producers from Illinois and Michigan (States that love to transfer wealth from the Producer to the lazy and stupid) and made Indiana a VERY financially solvent state. Millionaires that want to continue to work in Chicago, Detroit, and Cleveland have found a much more hospitable climate in Indiana i.e. Low taxes, Low tolerance for thuggery and disorder, well maintained infrastructure, etc. What’s not to like?
Is your distaste for him stemming from the fact that a Red State is doing great while the blue states around them fester or do you have something substantive on him that you can point too?
Kip W almost 8 years ago
Pence’s distaste is obvious. In order to sit next to Trump, he has to hand out a different brand of crazy than his usual anti-woman, anti-secular nastiness.
comixbomix almost 8 years ago
“Let them eat cake…”
edward thomas Premium Member almost 8 years ago
And in 1999, Pence said smoking was unhealthy, BUT WOULDN’T KILL YOU!He’s also a major climate change denier, and anti-LGBT, anti-same sex marriage, anti-rights for anybody but Christians.PERFECTLY in line with the GOP platform!
edward thomas Premium Member almost 8 years ago
I think I have a Trumpence, It isn’t worth a tuppence.I’d rather have a ha’penny, and God bless you!
rowena28 Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Except in their case, they’d be whitebirds, not blackbirds.
Mr. Blawt almost 8 years ago
The problem with crazy is there is a never ending supply, that bag will never be empty. The woman who was selling breadcrumbs on the steps of the church was a metaphor for why Mary Poppins came, to teach the children (and Mr. Banks) the value of charity. It was one of Walt Dinsney’s favorite songs because he felt it was the whole point of not only Mary Poppins, but of Disney. To think these two would be considering the merits of giving to charity is laughable (we have already seen how Trump feels about charity) but he sure does hand out his crazy with impunity.The blackbirds at the bottom is where this gets interesting – 24 may be the hours in the day: sitting on the bench with Pence handing out all his Trumpy crazy. Or this could go to the allusion of the monks during the period of the Dissolution of the Monasteries by Henry VIII. When Henry VIII got rid of the Catholic monasteries because he wanted to do as he pleased. Either interpretation seems viable in this case.
Mephistopheles almost 8 years ago
@Mad4U – I suspected as much. Personally I’m not socially conservative but I understand the need for a vice president who is. Trump needs someone to keep the evangelicals in his camp. He also needs some midwestern credentials which Pence brings.
I don’t usually associate anti-progressive with a lack of intelligence. Socially conservative, maybe, but not anti-progressive. I know a lot of smart people who are sick and tired of government enforced wealth distribution.
Godfreydaniel almost 8 years ago
Conservative pundit David Brooks:“That was the choice Republican voters in the states faced throughout the primaries. Passing up the out-of-touch insiders, they went for an overflowing souffle of crazy incompetence in the form of Donald Trump.” As for Pence, he is not a conservative but a reactionary. Major difference.
Happy Two Shoes almost 8 years ago
The problem is there are several millions who are crazy enough to support the TP party.
Mephistopheles almost 8 years ago
@Night-Gaunt – When you enforce wealth distribution like the Federal Government does now – You steal from some neighborhoods to give to others. The Federal Government puts itself in charge of deciding who is deserving of largess and who is not.
When money is taken from me to give out somewhere else. That leaves less money for me to spend at Restaurants, Hardware Stores, Gas Stations, etc. Those businesses employ my neighbors and keep middle class jobs going.
As for the money flowing up. Nobody is forcibly taking it from the 99%. They freely give up their wealth in exchange for goods and services i.e. Groceries, Gas, Cable TV, Cell phone, etc. It is a voluntary transaction. Compare that to the government forcing me and others like me to give to a charity that we find counterproductive and wrong.
There are ways to help people out of poverty that don’t involve giving them money and making them dependent on the government for their very existence.
If you want to support the poor by just throwing money at it … Then throw YOUR money at it and leave me and my friends to use our money to help the poor in the ways we think are more successful.
To be clear – your way isn’t very successful. We have thrown trillions at the poor (war on poverty) since LBJ and we have just as many if not MORE poor then we had back then. Obviously the Federal Government way ISN"T working
pam Miner almost 8 years ago
Good, Mad for you.
Nantucket Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Thanks. My husband asks me why I post since my replies fall on deaf ears of the original commenters. But if their statements stand without being refuted, others may start to believe the lies.Fox “News”, Swiftboaters, and birthers have all been very successful when their targets don’t want to “dignify” the lies with a response.
Mephistopheles almost 8 years ago
@Wabbit – About your concern for whether or not the poor support the economy – it is beside the point.
You want me to accept your premise that it is OK to take money from my community and ship it somewhere else to strengthen someone else’s community. And I won’t. The cities seem to have all sorts of ways to funnel tax payer dollars to their local charities. But we, out in rural America, continue to get fleeced so that the cities are comfortable.
Those dollars that are taken from me and my fellow taxpayers would have been used to purchase dinners in the local restaurants, cars at the local dealership, feed at the local mill for cattle or sheep, groceries in the local stores. All of those purchases employ locals in my community and keep my community strong. It’s a zero sum game when the Federal Government plays Robin Hood. I know you would like to tell yourself that those tax dollars are just coming from the wicked 1% but they are coming from the hard working 3% and the equally hard working 30%.
It is wrong!!!! It is Theft.
I am not an anti-taxer. I support paying taxes for things that benefit all of us: Infrastructure, National Defense, Roads, etc. I don’t support taxes being handed out to those who think work is too good for them.
Mephistopheles almost 8 years ago
@Wabbit – As for disability. I went to our local Social Security Office a year ago to get an SS card for my son so he could get his driver’s license. The room was full of young able bodied people sharing and swapping strategies for convincing the local Social Security Office that they deserved SSDI becuase they were too sick or injured to work.
One little darlin was even noting that her neighbor figured out how to get her daughter on SSDI because they convinced the office that she had mental issues.
So don’t tell me it’s too hard to get on Social Security Disability – It’s entirely too easy if you ask me.