Personally, I think people are just people… and that the men/women divide is just a continuum of learned behaviors and societal norms. That kind of societal training may (but not necessarily) lead to different thinking patterns, but not always and probably not with any statistical significance.
As a female math geek and science nerd, I’d be interested to know if men and women (with a large statistical sampling) think differently when solving the same kinds of mathematical puzzles, given the same education and background. When I solve a mathematical puzzle, do a derivation or work through a complex integral, is it really different patterns of thinking than when my male counterpart works on the same problems, if we both come up with the same answers? I suspect not, but I also suspect that the answer to that question is probably not important either.
We all can contribute to our collective knowledge base and such navel gazing about whether or not we’re identical usually just leads to very unjust stereotypes, prejudice and wastes the opportunity to just work well with one another without worrying about such nonsense.
When I was a kid - a teacher in a parent-teacher conference asked my parents, “What did you do to her such that she’s interested in science?” (said with distain and in the same breath as the following) “If she doesn’t wear a dress once a week - she’ll forget she’s a girl”
Here here, Fermiproblem. I was a federal litigator for years. The Rules were the same without regard to the sex of the participant - but I was told a few times that a “courtroom is no place for a lady”. I just never saw any contradiction between being a lady and a litigator; in fact, i thought the two words redundant.
The men and women thinking differently has indeed been documented in brain scans. I’m not going to go search for them to link them, but ultimately what it boiled down to was the same stimuli activated different regions of the brain between genders. Ultimately it doesn’t affect the ability to think but doubtless nature has us biologically hardwired to process information differently for a reason
If you want some fascinating reading, try “The Male Brain”, and its counterpart, “The Female Brain”, both by Louann Brizendine, a neuropsychiatrist. Some of her findings will surprise you (and some may not - for instance ”The male brain has an area for sexual pursuit 2.5 times larger than female brains.” I assume there should be a “do” at the end of that sentence.)
To read an article in the San Francisco Chronicle:
http://tinyurl.com/yeqt8ts
Fermiproblem, I have a daughter who asked me whether she could get married in jeans - otherwise she would not be interested. I told her of course she could.
Unfortunately, when she actually did get married, she decided to wear a (quite expensive) dress - spoiled my faith in women completely.
Hmmmm?
Where is it written that all MEN think alike and all WOMEN think alike?
For example, if all men thought alike they would all be in one political party. Same for women, though probably a different party. Is that what we see?
There is a continum, most men and women fall at a certain point on it.
If you raise both boys and girls as I have you’ll find the boys
are generally more active, girls more sedentary. This does not apply to everyone, just most. Plus desire for different games, toys etc.
Fermiproblem, I have seen theories that there are gender differences–hard to argue there–and other theories that say most of the gender differences are based on a continuum, along which there is plenty of overlap between men and women, but there are different averages. For example, in the MBTI, men tend to be T and women F, but there are plenty of male Fs and female Ts.
You have an interesting question. I wonder what the research would show.
madKanga almost 14 years ago
The opinions of the man are not necessarily the opinions of the household.
Coyoty Premium Member almost 14 years ago
He gives her the last word. That’s wisdom.
lazygrazer almost 14 years ago
Mr. and Mrs. Guru’s kid guru up to be a guru too.
Wildmustang1262 almost 14 years ago
Very funny!
FresnoDude almost 14 years ago
Women and Men think differently and there are PET brain scans to prove it.
Mad-ge Dish Soap almost 14 years ago
I Guru a rose garden.
wicky almost 14 years ago
Who listens to women anyhow?
tomtweit almost 14 years ago
I am the boss around my house, and my wife gave me permision to say that!
kpduty almost 14 years ago
That is funny on so many levels…
lewisbower almost 14 years ago
I have the last word in my house. “Yes Dear.” “You’re right Dear”
ninmas almost 14 years ago
“all sanity is lost.”
ronaldmundy almost 14 years ago
nobody that wants to live, machinegun! I can stay out all night……cause my wife is nice enough to call me and let me know when the fun’s over.
vexatron1984 almost 14 years ago
At least her sign says “second opinion” and not “correct answer!”
thirdguy almost 14 years ago
If a man gives his opinion, and there is no woman there to correct him, is he still wrong?
Olfarto almost 14 years ago
I bet the Guru’s son Kang will be bouncing all over the place with such great parenting!
Kang Guru, get it?
freeholder1 almost 14 years ago
He never promised you Rose guru, victor.
freeholder1 almost 14 years ago
If you can’t get away from her at the top of the mountain, it may explain why those low places are so appealing.
freeholder1 almost 14 years ago
If you have to explain it, Olf….
Justice22 almost 14 years ago
Fresno,,,,, How does a Pet scan (catscan?) of your dog tell anything about how women and men think?
I believe men think and women connive.
I do get the Kangguru joke OLF. Good one.
neeeurothrush almost 14 years ago
freeholder1: gb fan?
thirdguy: not only in the forest
fermiproblem almost 14 years ago
Personally, I think people are just people… and that the men/women divide is just a continuum of learned behaviors and societal norms. That kind of societal training may (but not necessarily) lead to different thinking patterns, but not always and probably not with any statistical significance.
As a female math geek and science nerd, I’d be interested to know if men and women (with a large statistical sampling) think differently when solving the same kinds of mathematical puzzles, given the same education and background. When I solve a mathematical puzzle, do a derivation or work through a complex integral, is it really different patterns of thinking than when my male counterpart works on the same problems, if we both come up with the same answers? I suspect not, but I also suspect that the answer to that question is probably not important either.
We all can contribute to our collective knowledge base and such navel gazing about whether or not we’re identical usually just leads to very unjust stereotypes, prejudice and wastes the opportunity to just work well with one another without worrying about such nonsense.
When I was a kid - a teacher in a parent-teacher conference asked my parents, “What did you do to her such that she’s interested in science?” (said with distain and in the same breath as the following) “If she doesn’t wear a dress once a week - she’ll forget she’s a girl”
We can do without such nonsense.
1148559 almost 14 years ago
@ fermiproblem,
Whoa! I would say that teacher you mention at the end of your post was way over the line with those comments.
I also agree with your opinion on how people think.
crross46 almost 14 years ago
femiproblem has a problem. It’s a cartoon and a very funny one at that. Learn to chill woman.
Spyderred almost 14 years ago
Here here, Fermiproblem. I was a federal litigator for years. The Rules were the same without regard to the sex of the participant - but I was told a few times that a “courtroom is no place for a lady”. I just never saw any contradiction between being a lady and a litigator; in fact, i thought the two words redundant.
Trebor39 almost 14 years ago
crross, I agree
GuntotingLiberal almost 14 years ago
The men and women thinking differently has indeed been documented in brain scans. I’m not going to go search for them to link them, but ultimately what it boiled down to was the same stimuli activated different regions of the brain between genders. Ultimately it doesn’t affect the ability to think but doubtless nature has us biologically hardwired to process information differently for a reason
Ushindi almost 14 years ago
If you want some fascinating reading, try “The Male Brain”, and its counterpart, “The Female Brain”, both by Louann Brizendine, a neuropsychiatrist. Some of her findings will surprise you (and some may not - for instance ”The male brain has an area for sexual pursuit 2.5 times larger than female brains.” I assume there should be a “do” at the end of that sentence.)
To read an article in the San Francisco Chronicle: http://tinyurl.com/yeqt8ts
madKanga almost 14 years ago
Fermiproblem, I have a daughter who asked me whether she could get married in jeans - otherwise she would not be interested. I told her of course she could. Unfortunately, when she actually did get married, she decided to wear a (quite expensive) dress - spoiled my faith in women completely.
steverinoCT almost 14 years ago
http://images.qmss.com/man-woman.gif
DarthSequitur almost 14 years ago
Hmmmm? Where is it written that all MEN think alike and all WOMEN think alike? For example, if all men thought alike they would all be in one political party. Same for women, though probably a different party. Is that what we see?
WideeyedAnnie almost 14 years ago
There is a continum, most men and women fall at a certain point on it.
If you raise both boys and girls as I have you’ll find the boys are generally more active, girls more sedentary. This does not apply to everyone, just most. Plus desire for different games, toys etc.
Works out rather well.
bmonk almost 14 years ago
Her opinion is obviously on a higher level…
Fermiproblem, I have seen theories that there are gender differences–hard to argue there–and other theories that say most of the gender differences are based on a continuum, along which there is plenty of overlap between men and women, but there are different averages. For example, in the MBTI, men tend to be T and women F, but there are plenty of male Fs and female Ts.
You have an interesting question. I wonder what the research would show.