Yes. As a man who will never have to go through the pain of childbirth under any circumstance, I believe adoption would be a good alternative to abortion in most cases. Affordable and easily available birth control would be an even better, vastly more cost effective alternative than adoption.
my niece was an adpted child. when her mother was pregnent, abortion was against the law. having watched her grow up to become a good , caring and wonderful person, who is now the mother of two children, makes me wonder about legal abortion
Who will adopt children that have birth defects if the 20 week limit on abortions was set? Many tests are not effective until AFTER 20 weeks.-I don’t think that abortion should be used as casual birth control, but I also don’t think that anyone should stand in judgement of a woman’s decision. I think that Roe v Wade was a well thought out decision; more people should read it.-Make birth control easily available and the abortion rate goes down (proven in several studies).
Abortion will always be sought. If we make abortion illegal, we go back to the days when desperate women will die at the hands of hacks with crochet hooks and knitting needles. The fetus will die anyway, and the woman’s family will say she died of “complications from appendicitis”, just like the good ol’ days.
Abortion should be rare, as we have many birth control methods (that some businesses will allow their insurance companies to cover). Also, we should make adoption easier and cheaper, but we have to realize that there are whole classes of people who will be “preferred” and many available babies will still end up in orphanages or “homes” as a result.
But abortion should be safe and legal, as well.
When all is said and done, I would trust females to resolve this issue far more than I would trust males, who have no capability of knowing what it’s like to have to consider these alternatives. There is the principle of “self-determination” which we often like to believe applies to each of us.
There was a woman legislator in Wyoming, I think, who proposed a law that said that semen could only ever be deposited inside a woman’s vagina. Any semen going anywhere else would be against the law, punishable by prison time. I saw an interview with a male counterpart in that state, who said that she had no right to tell him how he could take care of his body and its functions. I almost fell out of my chair at this guy’s immense lack of self-awareness.
How many have seen or been involve in the foster care system. Here, it takes months, at least, plus large amount of paperwork to adopt. Those that are older, are much less “desirable” and may be stuck in the system until they run away or age out. Birth control, education, women’s health and as a LAST resort, abortion, should be available to all women.(And it would not hurt for a “few” guys to be more responsible)World population has tripled in my lifetime. I have not added to it, and I have help many who others have birthed.
Hi Harley, I kind of feel sorry for you. Your choosing life is a good thing, of course. Life itself is neither black or white, however, and those who think in those terms torment themselves between the way they are convinced things “really are” and the stuff that happens in the world all around them. Sad, really. There are all shades of gray and ambiguities abound. It must be so frustrating to be right all the time and have the realities of the world slip away without a second thought. If you refuse to acknowledge them, maybe they’ll go away. I think you’re probably right that the two parent family is best, under ideal circumstances. But, you know, just whining about it does no good whatsoever. It’s just howling at the moon. The dog barks and the caravan moves on. But I’m awfully glad you post so stridently and so frequently. I do wish you’d find a couple of different soapboxes to stand on, though. You know, though, that the forces of the universe compel adaptation in life, right? You do understand that we as a species are, by our very nature, adaptable, right?
Abortion shouldn’t be “birth control”, but ALL other forms should be legal and used! Adoption sounds great, but is very difficult and expensive in the U.S., which results in unadopted AMERICAN kids, while folks go overeas to adopt in Asia and Africa- that’s just stupid!
WHICH: A couple I knew some years ago, some of my best friends, fostered a young girl when her mother died of an OD, in jail no less. They were about to get a completed adoption of the llitte girl when the long lost “grandmother” came out of the woodwork and social services gave the chld to her. She was also a drug addict who’d taken the mother, her daughter, into the drug scene. Three weeks after this paragon of parenthood got the child back, her “boyfriend” murdered the little girl, three years old, raping her and then beating her to death, while “grandma” looked on and did nada to protect her.My friends later divorced because he still wanted to try adoption, but she couldn’t bear the pain of trying again. The system still hasn’t changed much.
While the Pope has noted humans shouldn’t breed like rabbits, the church still doesn’t support birth control except through accepted means, meaning “rythym” method, which is the very definition of “parenthood”.
Which, my daughter and her husband had given up on tryng to have a child, thought about adoption, but in October announced she was PG, and due three weeks before their 20th wedding anniversary!! Surprise!!! They’re dellighted, but my response was the same as many of our friends, maybe we should have sent them a book on how it’s done, a long time ago!!??
Another note on choice: We had a daughter, a son, and a vasectomy. Economics and other personal choices entered in We love our children, and they turned out be be excellent, yet very different, adults. Part of that postitive rearing in families IS related to the size of those families.
Rabbits it should be remembered abandon their children as soon as they’re weaned. If food sources aren’t up to snuff, the rabbit will actually resorbe those fetuses that won’t survive(think anencephally). Unwanted, severly damaged genetically or in utero, or just unaffordable, human children are lucky sometimes to just be abandoned, or never born.
I DID NOT READ THE COMMENTS HERE, EXCEPT ONE OR TWO, AND I DON’T CARE WHAT YA’ ALL THINK, I AM A MOTHER, MY FIRST DAUGHTER WAS STILLBORN SO I WILL REITERATE
ABORTION IS NOT AN OPTION! IF YOU DON’T WANT THAT CHILD, GIVE BIRTH TO IT, AND ADOPT THAT CHILD AWAY TO SOMEONE WHO DOES WANT THAT PRECIOUS CHILD!
Huh? You are something, my man. How do you go from adaptable to global warning without any sense of irony. Of course we have to be adaptable with respect to whatever the climatic conditions are. But adaptability is way more than that, silly man. Adaptability is the ability to roll with the punches and figure out how to recover from problems and adapt to new circumstances. Honestly, Harley, you are a hoot! You really are. Keep it up. I’m amused.
Everyone saying adoption is forgetting that a woman who doesn’t want a child may also 1) Not want to let her body be used as an incubator, with all the attendant changes & risks & 2) May not want a biological child of hers out there if she doesn’t want it herself.
Pregnancy is a big deal. It takes a toll on the body. Also, some women who want abortions may also not want people (such as their employer) to know they got pregnant. They may not want their classmates or teachers or parents to know (if they are still in school).
The majority of women who have abortions already have children. Often, it’s not just that they don’t want another child to raise, they don’t want to go through another pregnancy.
You are all acting like it is no big deal to simply incubate that fetus, give birth, & then go back to your old life.
NO-ONE has the right to FORCE a woman to be an incubator. If a woman is pregnant & does not want to be pregnant, for any reason, NO-ONE can force her to stay pregnant.
Jason Allen over 9 years ago
Yes. As a man who will never have to go through the pain of childbirth under any circumstance, I believe adoption would be a good alternative to abortion in most cases. Affordable and easily available birth control would be an even better, vastly more cost effective alternative than adoption.
ferengi19 over 9 years ago
my niece was an adpted child. when her mother was pregnent, abortion was against the law. having watched her grow up to become a good , caring and wonderful person, who is now the mother of two children, makes me wonder about legal abortion
Nantucket Premium Member over 9 years ago
Who will adopt children that have birth defects if the 20 week limit on abortions was set? Many tests are not effective until AFTER 20 weeks.-I don’t think that abortion should be used as casual birth control, but I also don’t think that anyone should stand in judgement of a woman’s decision. I think that Roe v Wade was a well thought out decision; more people should read it.-Make birth control easily available and the abortion rate goes down (proven in several studies).
jimguess over 9 years ago
When does the BABY get a choice? THAT is the question …
I Play One On TV over 9 years ago
Abortion will always be sought. If we make abortion illegal, we go back to the days when desperate women will die at the hands of hacks with crochet hooks and knitting needles. The fetus will die anyway, and the woman’s family will say she died of “complications from appendicitis”, just like the good ol’ days.
Abortion should be rare, as we have many birth control methods (that some businesses will allow their insurance companies to cover). Also, we should make adoption easier and cheaper, but we have to realize that there are whole classes of people who will be “preferred” and many available babies will still end up in orphanages or “homes” as a result.
But abortion should be safe and legal, as well.
When all is said and done, I would trust females to resolve this issue far more than I would trust males, who have no capability of knowing what it’s like to have to consider these alternatives. There is the principle of “self-determination” which we often like to believe applies to each of us.
There was a woman legislator in Wyoming, I think, who proposed a law that said that semen could only ever be deposited inside a woman’s vagina. Any semen going anywhere else would be against the law, punishable by prison time. I saw an interview with a male counterpart in that state, who said that she had no right to tell him how he could take care of his body and its functions. I almost fell out of my chair at this guy’s immense lack of self-awareness.
eugene57 over 9 years ago
How many have seen or been involve in the foster care system. Here, it takes months, at least, plus large amount of paperwork to adopt. Those that are older, are much less “desirable” and may be stuck in the system until they run away or age out. Birth control, education, women’s health and as a LAST resort, abortion, should be available to all women.(And it would not hurt for a “few” guys to be more responsible)World population has tripled in my lifetime. I have not added to it, and I have help many who others have birthed.
luvdafuneez over 9 years ago
More likely, people who think like you have been “the downfall of the USA”…
twclix over 9 years ago
Hi Harley, I kind of feel sorry for you. Your choosing life is a good thing, of course. Life itself is neither black or white, however, and those who think in those terms torment themselves between the way they are convinced things “really are” and the stuff that happens in the world all around them. Sad, really. There are all shades of gray and ambiguities abound. It must be so frustrating to be right all the time and have the realities of the world slip away without a second thought. If you refuse to acknowledge them, maybe they’ll go away. I think you’re probably right that the two parent family is best, under ideal circumstances. But, you know, just whining about it does no good whatsoever. It’s just howling at the moon. The dog barks and the caravan moves on. But I’m awfully glad you post so stridently and so frequently. I do wish you’d find a couple of different soapboxes to stand on, though. You know, though, that the forces of the universe compel adaptation in life, right? You do understand that we as a species are, by our very nature, adaptable, right?
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
Abortion shouldn’t be “birth control”, but ALL other forms should be legal and used! Adoption sounds great, but is very difficult and expensive in the U.S., which results in unadopted AMERICAN kids, while folks go overeas to adopt in Asia and Africa- that’s just stupid!
WHICH: A couple I knew some years ago, some of my best friends, fostered a young girl when her mother died of an OD, in jail no less. They were about to get a completed adoption of the llitte girl when the long lost “grandmother” came out of the woodwork and social services gave the chld to her. She was also a drug addict who’d taken the mother, her daughter, into the drug scene. Three weeks after this paragon of parenthood got the child back, her “boyfriend” murdered the little girl, three years old, raping her and then beating her to death, while “grandma” looked on and did nada to protect her.My friends later divorced because he still wanted to try adoption, but she couldn’t bear the pain of trying again. The system still hasn’t changed much.
While the Pope has noted humans shouldn’t breed like rabbits, the church still doesn’t support birth control except through accepted means, meaning “rythym” method, which is the very definition of “parenthood”.
Which, my daughter and her husband had given up on tryng to have a child, thought about adoption, but in October announced she was PG, and due three weeks before their 20th wedding anniversary!! Surprise!!! They’re dellighted, but my response was the same as many of our friends, maybe we should have sent them a book on how it’s done, a long time ago!!??
Another note on choice: We had a daughter, a son, and a vasectomy. Economics and other personal choices entered in We love our children, and they turned out be be excellent, yet very different, adults. Part of that postitive rearing in families IS related to the size of those families.
Rabbits it should be remembered abandon their children as soon as they’re weaned. If food sources aren’t up to snuff, the rabbit will actually resorbe those fetuses that won’t survive(think anencephally). Unwanted, severly damaged genetically or in utero, or just unaffordable, human children are lucky sometimes to just be abandoned, or never born.
I Play One On TV over 9 years ago
“It does take two to tangle, It should only take 1 to say no.”
Look us in the eye (figuratively) and tell us honestly that you never, ever, had unprotected sex. Not once.
And every birth control method can fail. You can take precautions and still create a pregnancy.
The theoretical and the reality are often very different.
Catherine Spencer-Mills Premium Member over 9 years ago
Have you ever put a baby up for adoption? Had an abortion? Even been pregnant? No? Then you don’t have a clue.
ruthkando over 9 years ago
How many anti-abortionists adopt or help struggling mothers in any way?
Dry and Dusty Premium Member over 9 years ago
Dry and Dusty Premium Member over 9 years ago
I DID NOT READ THE COMMENTS HERE, EXCEPT ONE OR TWO, AND I DON’T CARE WHAT YA’ ALL THINK, I AM A MOTHER, MY FIRST DAUGHTER WAS STILLBORN SO I WILL REITERATE
ABORTION IS NOT AN OPTION! IF YOU DON’T WANT THAT CHILD, GIVE BIRTH TO IT, AND ADOPT THAT CHILD AWAY TO SOMEONE WHO DOES WANT THAT PRECIOUS CHILD!
twclix over 9 years ago
Huh? You are something, my man. How do you go from adaptable to global warning without any sense of irony. Of course we have to be adaptable with respect to whatever the climatic conditions are. But adaptability is way more than that, silly man. Adaptability is the ability to roll with the punches and figure out how to recover from problems and adapt to new circumstances. Honestly, Harley, you are a hoot! You really are. Keep it up. I’m amused.
Anweir88 over 9 years ago
Your statement is unclear. Are you saying that terrorists = fetuses or are you saying that terrorists are more valuable than fetuses?
Dry and Dusty Premium Member over 9 years ago
@twclix And Adaptability *AND GLOBAL WARMING has WHAT TO DO WITH ABORTION? WHICH
IF YOU LOOK REAL CLOSE, IS WHAT THE STRIP IS ABOUT!
Tue Elung-Jensen over 9 years ago
Adopt the ones who need adoption now then first, once those have been I’ll believe any hypocrisy on the matter.
Michael Peterson Premium Member over 9 years ago
Legal, safe and rare — yes, it’s working.
rowena28 Premium Member over 9 years ago
Everyone saying adoption is forgetting that a woman who doesn’t want a child may also 1) Not want to let her body be used as an incubator, with all the attendant changes & risks & 2) May not want a biological child of hers out there if she doesn’t want it herself.
Pregnancy is a big deal. It takes a toll on the body. Also, some women who want abortions may also not want people (such as their employer) to know they got pregnant. They may not want their classmates or teachers or parents to know (if they are still in school).
The majority of women who have abortions already have children. Often, it’s not just that they don’t want another child to raise, they don’t want to go through another pregnancy.
You are all acting like it is no big deal to simply incubate that fetus, give birth, & then go back to your old life.
NO-ONE has the right to FORCE a woman to be an incubator. If a woman is pregnant & does not want to be pregnant, for any reason, NO-ONE can force her to stay pregnant.
#abortionnotadoption