Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for March 12, 2014

A nice way to shut somebody up.

Boy, Mark started bullying the country with his gay agenda a long time ago didn’t he??? :P

@ gimmickgenius: Never figured out what that whole “gay agenda” was. Do you mean like not getting fired for being gay? Or being allowed to marry?

I thought there were more references to Vietnam back then, but we may hear about that soon. The draft was a big protest motivator.

The revolutionaries are now the establishment, and the Tea Partiers are the new anarchists.

I love these old Doonesburys so much.

I am shocked, shocked that no-one has yet said anything about Mark’s vowing “to make this country great again.” Even un-caffeinated, I can think of about 100 different things I expected to see here as a result. Get on the stick, people! That line, coming from him, should have sparked a huge flame war by now. I demand my entertainment!

…or, another way of putting it: You people are really reaching for some way to imprint your own politics onto the strip by using the fact that, years later, Mark turns out to be gay, even though it has no apparent relevance to today’s strip (and, realistically, GT had not yet even considered whether Mark might be gay by the time he wrote this strip).

I’m enjoying these retro-strips of Doonesbury. Wouldn’t it be fun to alternate? We can enjoy the characters then and now … this would would be perfect for a then and now perspective.

Still a great advertising slogan, if anyone wants to pay royalties to Mr. Trudeau.

Tired of the oldies. When do we get back to the current and better strip?

You think Putin could be distracted by chocolate chip cookies? (Maybe vodka-flavored……..)

This whole unpleasantness was put on its inevitable course the moment The State started sanctioning marriages. Only in the last 250 years have there been ANY laws about marriages. Previously, it had been always either a business matter or religious matter, depending on the participants.

Now there are >1,000 federal laws that have something to do with marital status. Is there a compelling State interest in this personal institution? I have never been invited to a State baptism, a State bar mitzvah or a State funeral (okay, a very slight exception here). These are private events, and the State, properly has no place in them. So why weddings?

Here’s a good essay on this whole concept: http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/privatize-marriage

…If you’re too lazy (or think yourself too principled) to click, it basically says (better) what I’m saying above, and explains that, in a sensible world, there would be no debate about gay marriage because the government wouldn’t take a legal interest in marriage at all. Thus, last legal word on the subject would be: if you’re opposed to gay marriage, don’t have one.

Fight to whose death?

Mark at this point was only concerned about the war. He didn’t even “realize” he was gay until the 1990s. He was chasing girls with Mike in college — you will see that in riding the motorcycle across the country arc.GT has not so much spent time on Mark’s sexuality as he has on inability to have a successful relationship.He has also spent a good deal of time on Mike’s and BD’s relationships. Does that mean he has paid an inordinate amount of attention to their sexuality?Is GT now paying too much attention to Alex’s and Leo’s sexuality?

Mark was suspended after the President’s office takeover. It didn’t take long for his draft board to find out:-http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1970/12/05#.UyCdKim9Kc0

Brilliant, Doctor T, brilliant!

GTs main objective is to make you think, try IT.

For the record, Mark was portrayed as heterosexual back then. I remember one strip where he and Mike went on a motorcycle road trip and they met a cute woman and he left Mike behind and took off with her.

“Even revolutionaries like choclate chip cookies” was the title of a book (collection of strips) by Trudeau in 1970.

Heinlein always maintained the draft was unconstitutional. Whenever it was challenged in court, the selective service dropped the call to service to deprive the plaintiff of standing in court.Therefore, it looks like they also considered it unconstitutional or that the courts would rule so.

Thank you, acsdaddy! I couldn’t believe this conversation devolved so quickly, and NO MENTION of the classic line in the last panel that became the title of his first book.

vietnam war, people. i know you can’t all be as old as i am, but you can stir yourselves to learn a little history.

You OBVIOUSLY do not pay any attention to the comments OR “About Doonesbury” which is at the right of the comments!!!!!!!!!!!

A toll-house cannot stand divided.

Got the book, dates back to the early 70s. Got it new when I was in elementary school.

I love these cartoons, they allow some troll commenters to make total a$$e$ of themselves.