Interesting that the same folks so against a sane national health care system, are buying what corporate profiteers who threaten not just the very “lifetyle” they’re selling, but life forms. The threat to “humans” is down the road, but many species are already “roadkill”, and more are getting run over all the time. It ain’t just “climate”, but the entire interactions with all environments, land, sea, and air.
And the folks P.T. Barnum played to, call those who DO know what’s happening, the “low informaton” populaton.
A wave comes in, and then goes out, a wave comes in, and then goes out. About every third wave come a little bit higher than any of the former ones. That’s what a rising tide looks like. It is perfectly easy to watch a dozen waves and not see anything happening. Most people walking on the beach can’t tell you if the tide is coming in or going out.
Playing the odds is not “believing” anything, risking the future on the assurance that the world at large is wrong, THAT is blind faith in your own infallibility. AGW may possibly be a mistake. The analysis could be wrong. But being a skeptic, I don’t accept any side of this debate on faith. And for that reason, I think it better to play it safe, and accept the possibility of AGW, knowing that increasing efficiency, conserving resources, and encouraging renewable energy are all useful in themselves regardless of AGW, and save money in the long run. Why do some folks prefer blind, ideologically based faith, rather than a (to me) healthy skepticism about such things?
after looking at all this stuff (news broadcasts, cartoonsde, etc.) I just wonder if all these manufactured crises(sp) arering foisted on us to distract us from something that couldREALLY be a crisis if we only knew about it instead of beingfed fluff by our “leaders”.
Nice joke. Now, can anyone answer me this one: why do many of the same people who complain loudly about how our federal government has handicapped our children and grandchildren with its economic largesse (which it has) don’t give a rat’s patootie about the air those same descendants breathe, the water they drink, and the possibility of significant breaks in the food chain?
No ahab, I categorize in order to better rationalize and analyze the irrational answers that Progressive Leftists give to rational, logical, and factual arguments that run counter to their beliefs..Aside from that I can accept the concept of climate change. What I cannot and do not accept is what I term Gorebal Warming.The later is the irrational belief that all changes to the planet’s bioshpere and atmosphere are due entirely to some anthroprogenic cause like CFC’s making a hole in the ozone layer or that manmade CO2 is the primary or sole cause of changes in planetary temperature.
I think, actually, that people do know a tsunami is coming, because the tidal wave sucks all the water off the beaches before it makes a landing, so to speak. Whether that warning gives people time enough to reach high ground before it makes landfall is a different question, but if it begins in daylight, in a place people frequent, they do get a warning.
Yes, there is controversy in the scientific community. It’s just that MSNBC doesn’t report the existence of scientists who point out the data that shows the temperatures of Earth have not risen in the past 15 years, that temperature fluctuations are cyclical over time (and large segments of time, not just from summer to winter), and that governments try to shut them up because the truth interferes with the liberal political agenda.
Don Winchester Premium Member over 10 years ago
Chicken Little at it again…
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Interesting that the same folks so against a sane national health care system, are buying what corporate profiteers who threaten not just the very “lifetyle” they’re selling, but life forms. The threat to “humans” is down the road, but many species are already “roadkill”, and more are getting run over all the time. It ain’t just “climate”, but the entire interactions with all environments, land, sea, and air.
And the folks P.T. Barnum played to, call those who DO know what’s happening, the “low informaton” populaton.
Doughfoot over 10 years ago
A wave comes in, and then goes out, a wave comes in, and then goes out. About every third wave come a little bit higher than any of the former ones. That’s what a rising tide looks like. It is perfectly easy to watch a dozen waves and not see anything happening. Most people walking on the beach can’t tell you if the tide is coming in or going out.
Enoki over 10 years ago
Ah! The type I response! Change the subject!
Doughfoot over 10 years ago
Playing the odds is not “believing” anything, risking the future on the assurance that the world at large is wrong, THAT is blind faith in your own infallibility. AGW may possibly be a mistake. The analysis could be wrong. But being a skeptic, I don’t accept any side of this debate on faith. And for that reason, I think it better to play it safe, and accept the possibility of AGW, knowing that increasing efficiency, conserving resources, and encouraging renewable energy are all useful in themselves regardless of AGW, and save money in the long run. Why do some folks prefer blind, ideologically based faith, rather than a (to me) healthy skepticism about such things?
woodwork over 10 years ago
after looking at all this stuff (news broadcasts, cartoonsde, etc.) I just wonder if all these manufactured crises(sp) arering foisted on us to distract us from something that couldREALLY be a crisis if we only knew about it instead of beingfed fluff by our “leaders”.
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
“The good thing about science is that it exists whether you want to believe in it or not.” —-Neil DeGraffe Tyson
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
Nice joke. Now, can anyone answer me this one: why do many of the same people who complain loudly about how our federal government has handicapped our children and grandchildren with its economic largesse (which it has) don’t give a rat’s patootie about the air those same descendants breathe, the water they drink, and the possibility of significant breaks in the food chain?
Tom Falco over 10 years ago
That is scary.
Calvinball12 over 10 years ago
@Enoki and me9970Why worry about an anvil hanging over your head while you’re being hit on the toe by a hammer?
Enoki over 10 years ago
No ahab, I categorize in order to better rationalize and analyze the irrational answers that Progressive Leftists give to rational, logical, and factual arguments that run counter to their beliefs..Aside from that I can accept the concept of climate change. What I cannot and do not accept is what I term Gorebal Warming.The later is the irrational belief that all changes to the planet’s bioshpere and atmosphere are due entirely to some anthroprogenic cause like CFC’s making a hole in the ozone layer or that manmade CO2 is the primary or sole cause of changes in planetary temperature.
Hawthorne over 10 years ago
“Nor if a Tsunami is coming”
I think, actually, that people do know a tsunami is coming, because the tidal wave sucks all the water off the beaches before it makes a landing, so to speak. Whether that warning gives people time enough to reach high ground before it makes landfall is a different question, but if it begins in daylight, in a place people frequent, they do get a warning.
If they are lucky.
Kim0158 Premium Member over 10 years ago
Yes, there is controversy in the scientific community. It’s just that MSNBC doesn’t report the existence of scientists who point out the data that shows the temperatures of Earth have not risen in the past 15 years, that temperature fluctuations are cyclical over time (and large segments of time, not just from summer to winter), and that governments try to shut them up because the truth interferes with the liberal political agenda.