Tax and spend. Said as if that were a bad thing. Much better than the r/w plan, spend, spend, spend, tax cuts galore for the rich rich and start and run useless wars on credit.
I noticed that some one flipped the signs off to the side of the road there.
The stock market is only an indication of the stock market, not the economy. The current state of the market itself is a bubble, and like housing, is going to crash hard. You are well named braindead.
Cutting taxes worked for JFK, and brought in enough extra revenue by creating funds for investments that in turn created jobs. Thos jobs put enough money into the economy that tax revenues boomed, allowing the Government to fund APOLLO, among other things. The same was true under Reagan’s tax cuts. cjr53, you are sadly lacking in any basis for your claims. You seem to have swallowed the Marxist Kool-Aid of our President, who believes in division, not unity. Still, hating people that are not like you feels good, doesn’t it? Tax the rich, send them to the lamp posts! What a sad person you are.
They never are, that’s just what their campaign managers call them.Release the Flying Monkey!… oh wait… can’t…sequestered. Like the Air Force grounding a third of their planes.Guess it gives Congress more time to solicit donations.helluva way to run a country.cynically,C.
It,s amazing how all you Obama lovers have so much time to write your tedious little comments. Your latte is getting cold and your free cell phone is ringing.
Brain dead Lisa is on her hobby horse of economic ignorance again. Household budgeting IS NOT the same as running a country. Could a family refuse to pay its electricity or phone bills for 8 years and not get the services cut off? But GW Bush kept on financing his totally pointless war without paying for it. Now Obama is paying the price and getting criticized for spending to create employment to ease the effects of recession while at the same time accepting the need for cuts in spending in some areas.
Simplistic manichean tripe that we’d expect from Tea-sa Benson. The road is really a wide open space and the riches beyond are guarded by a herd of aging, dying elephants.
If spending is too great, reducing spending is a priority. If revenue is too small, either increase revenue (tax) or don’t spend money you don’t have. Unfortunately, many believe in Borrow-and-Spend, which is the most destructive.
Those who like Borrow-and-Spend also tell us that deficits don’t matter.
“It,s amazing how all you Obama lovers have so much time to write your tedious little comments. Your latte is getting cold and your free cell phone is ringing.”And the Obama haters seem to have so much time to write tedious, fact free comments like yours. You so called conservatives should love that alleged free phone. The Reagan Administration started that program.
Lisa got it right that Obama is no wizard. His magic hasn’t fixed unemployment even with the biggest deficit ever. I don’t agree though that he has raised taxes much even if he promised he would. We still have Bush’s tax cuts in place for everyone but the rich.
Cutting taxes grows the National Debt. Look at how much it grew during Reagan’s and GW Bush’s administrations. President Obama is saddled with GW’s cuts and subsidies and cannot rid himself of them like the $8B + subsidies to the oil companies each year.
Actual fact: the stock market, and banking, before Reagonomics with regulation thrown out, and yes, taxes down, were both INVESTORS in business, where their money was used to actually build COMPANIES, and produce PRODUCTS. AFTER Reagan’s folks got done with the regulations, and a few Republicns (Phil Gramm for instance) got legislation passed that screwed America semi-permanently, the “market”, and the “banks”, became institutions committed to only producing PROFITS for a FEW at the top who could manipulate both markets and “lending” to control the economy. When taxes went down, DEBT went up, becase primarily DEFENSE spending soared, profiting a monopolistic few corporations, like Lockheed, that became “Lockheed Martin” and competition was eliminated in the largest TAX SPENDING structure in America. Social Secuirty and Medicare are BOTH “funded” by their OWN tax structure that is NOT part of the “taxed debt”, yes, down the road payments there ARE a concern that needs adjustment, but THE number ONE waste and fraud in government IS the “defense” realm.
So, markets today ARE a casino, and banking IS more of a Mafia operation, but trying to blame “Democrats”, or “Liberal” policies is pure idiocy. Republican (didn’t used to be that way) outright greed and corruption of the last 30 years is responsible for most of our debt. BTW, going from 12 to a littel under 16 trillion in debt rise in four years is NOT A SIX TRILLION INCREASE! (“W” did manage much more than that, as just the eventual bill, just for Iraq, will reach $6 trilliion.)
braindead Premium Member about 11 years ago
S&P has doubled in the past five years. Ruinous, I tells ya.
cjr53 about 11 years ago
Tax and spend. Said as if that were a bad thing. Much better than the r/w plan, spend, spend, spend, tax cuts galore for the rich rich and start and run useless wars on credit.
I noticed that some one flipped the signs off to the side of the road there.
SCOTTtheBADGER about 11 years ago
The stock market is only an indication of the stock market, not the economy. The current state of the market itself is a bubble, and like housing, is going to crash hard. You are well named braindead.
Cutting taxes worked for JFK, and brought in enough extra revenue by creating funds for investments that in turn created jobs. Thos jobs put enough money into the economy that tax revenues boomed, allowing the Government to fund APOLLO, among other things. The same was true under Reagan’s tax cuts. cjr53, you are sadly lacking in any basis for your claims. You seem to have swallowed the Marxist Kool-Aid of our President, who believes in division, not unity. Still, hating people that are not like you feels good, doesn’t it? Tax the rich, send them to the lamp posts! What a sad person you are.
chazandru about 11 years ago
They never are, that’s just what their campaign managers call them.Release the Flying Monkey!… oh wait… can’t…sequestered. Like the Air Force grounding a third of their planes.Guess it gives Congress more time to solicit donations.helluva way to run a country.cynically,C.
carandken about 11 years ago
It,s amazing how all you Obama lovers have so much time to write your tedious little comments. Your latte is getting cold and your free cell phone is ringing.
Bandusia15 about 11 years ago
Brain dead Lisa is on her hobby horse of economic ignorance again. Household budgeting IS NOT the same as running a country. Could a family refuse to pay its electricity or phone bills for 8 years and not get the services cut off? But GW Bush kept on financing his totally pointless war without paying for it. Now Obama is paying the price and getting criticized for spending to create employment to ease the effects of recession while at the same time accepting the need for cuts in spending in some areas.
Chillbilly about 11 years ago
Simplistic manichean tripe that we’d expect from Tea-sa Benson. The road is really a wide open space and the riches beyond are guarded by a herd of aging, dying elephants.
I Play One On TV about 11 years ago
If spending is too great, reducing spending is a priority. If revenue is too small, either increase revenue (tax) or don’t spend money you don’t have. Unfortunately, many believe in Borrow-and-Spend, which is the most destructive.
Those who like Borrow-and-Spend also tell us that deficits don’t matter.
Jason Allen about 11 years ago
“It,s amazing how all you Obama lovers have so much time to write your tedious little comments. Your latte is getting cold and your free cell phone is ringing.”And the Obama haters seem to have so much time to write tedious, fact free comments like yours. You so called conservatives should love that alleged free phone. The Reagan Administration started that program.
fofinho about 11 years ago
Lisa got it right that Obama is no wizard. His magic hasn’t fixed unemployment even with the biggest deficit ever. I don’t agree though that he has raised taxes much even if he promised he would. We still have Bush’s tax cuts in place for everyone but the rich.
Justice22 about 11 years ago
Cutting taxes grows the National Debt. Look at how much it grew during Reagan’s and GW Bush’s administrations. President Obama is saddled with GW’s cuts and subsidies and cannot rid himself of them like the $8B + subsidies to the oil companies each year.
PlainBill about 11 years ago
Better than the Republican’s ‘Borrow and Spend’ plan.
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
Actual fact: the stock market, and banking, before Reagonomics with regulation thrown out, and yes, taxes down, were both INVESTORS in business, where their money was used to actually build COMPANIES, and produce PRODUCTS. AFTER Reagan’s folks got done with the regulations, and a few Republicns (Phil Gramm for instance) got legislation passed that screwed America semi-permanently, the “market”, and the “banks”, became institutions committed to only producing PROFITS for a FEW at the top who could manipulate both markets and “lending” to control the economy. When taxes went down, DEBT went up, becase primarily DEFENSE spending soared, profiting a monopolistic few corporations, like Lockheed, that became “Lockheed Martin” and competition was eliminated in the largest TAX SPENDING structure in America. Social Secuirty and Medicare are BOTH “funded” by their OWN tax structure that is NOT part of the “taxed debt”, yes, down the road payments there ARE a concern that needs adjustment, but THE number ONE waste and fraud in government IS the “defense” realm.
So, markets today ARE a casino, and banking IS more of a Mafia operation, but trying to blame “Democrats”, or “Liberal” policies is pure idiocy. Republican (didn’t used to be that way) outright greed and corruption of the last 30 years is responsible for most of our debt. BTW, going from 12 to a littel under 16 trillion in debt rise in four years is NOT A SIX TRILLION INCREASE! (“W” did manage much more than that, as just the eventual bill, just for Iraq, will reach $6 trilliion.)
ransomdstone about 11 years ago
So true!
joe vignone about 11 years ago
Beats the hell out of “Borrow and Spend”!
chazandru about 11 years ago
You’re having way too much fun.It’s that OBX vacation, isn’t it.You owe me a beer.And a prime rib.covetously,C.
Moley about 11 years ago
So, …how’s the stock market doing?
trm about 11 years ago
No, he is a charlatan through and through.
chazandru about 11 years ago
Yes. I was going to buy a Kilt in the colors of my ancestors. Average quality starts at 300, and that’s just for the kilt.C.