I read about a study that suggested that slightly overweight person may have a lower mortality rate than someone of normal or underweight. However the study was flawed in that the group of normal or underweight persons included cancer and terminally ill patients, whom already have a shorter than average life expectancy.
I have to agree with Ima. It’s beyond absurd that some people in this country are dying of health issues related to eating too much while others literally starve to death. I read an estimate somewhere that around the world, 1 person dies of starvation every 4 seconds. Just some food for thought.
Wow. Ima thinks that Michican is “Democrats from top to bottom?” What the hell? He’s a bigger idiot than I thought. Michigan’s Republican governor, Republican senate, and Republican house have been in the news ALL YEAR. Please, if you are SO IGNORANT, please LEARN SOMETHING before you WASTE OUR TIME.
Poorer people eat foods that are not healthy, but do add weight. Just because a person is obese does not mean they are getting enough of the food they need. They can be starving of the vitamins and minerals they need.
“Vegetables cost money and don’t last long. I can’t eat fresh vegetables every meal. Neither can they. I know they are important but I have financial limits. Now that is simple to understand isn’t it?”Yes, you CAN eat vegetables with every meal. I do.You have ‘financial limits’. So do I. Vegetables are cheaper than fast food.Compassion? I have chronic disease, pre-existing. Not eligible for public or private insurance. Pay out of pocket.
Malnourishment includes eating “junk foods” and is the reason so many Americans are morbidly obese. One of my nieces had bariatcric surgery and lost weight, an entire “me” of 180 pounds! She still weighs around 180, she’s 5’5", and I’m 5’11 and I still look to take off another 10-15 pounds. I was up to 194 and found it “uncomfortable”. Of course at age 35 I weighed 135 and was very physically active in my job, and ran seven miles, seven times a day, after work.
NOt everyone needs to be that physically active, and I do walk my dog pretty much every day for a mile and a half, so it isn’t all that hard, but the real culprit does seem to be American “diet”, which typically includes about 4 times the caloroies reaquired to sustaing metabolism, and it’s mostly junk, not food. A “little” on the heavy side, BMI of 25 or 26 isn’t so bad, but a BMI of 30+ where it is NOT weight due to muscle mass, is a good way to die.
“How’s that . . . healthcare system working for you? Gotta love it when your lifespan extends only as far as your checkbook.”Lol. Obviously, the healthcare “system” is not working for me at all. And I expect . . . that all of us in the ‘post-boomer’ generations, should expect the same in the decades to come.
Onguard: Actually, “progression” is an interesting issue for many veterans, especially from "Nam. PTSD, you “get by” as best you can, and the job you’re doing, and where you live, can help. Type II diabetes, peripheral neuropathy, fibromyalgia, and secondary effects from primary injuries in combat areas, “sneak up” on a lot of us as we get older. Things that military folks say aren’t “progressive”, certainly are, as with rheumatoic or osteoarthritis, even non-related things come up as we age.
Amputees and paraplegics, and quads, are “visible” disabilties. Many more disabilities are NOT “visible” to the outside “civilian”, like my hearing loss of 95dB in the left ear, and 50 dB loss in the right(some,but not all frequencies), directly related to combat, but even years later, not directly compensated, because the Army just happened to “lose” THREE different hearing tests before purged records were forwarded to St Lous records center. And, btw, being basically deaf in one ear doesn’t affect running ability, but sure makes it hard to hear a radio out of the worst ear!! (always had to turn my right ear to the radio to understand any calls I got, but learning to read lips, and a little ASL helped one night when three deaf guys on motorcycles ran off the cliff, and their four deaf friends had to explain to me what happened, and coordinate the rescue.)
Happily, copy machines, and computer records make it a lot easier for today’s vets to have copies, or access to, their records, so the military has a harder, but not impossilbe, time “losing” them. My son by the way has had three surgeries so far on his foot, needs more, still can’t walk more than a block or two without severe pain, even with his cane, but while the miitary says it’s not “combat related” (he’s medically retired after 13 years service) the VA is trying to help, but the Pentagon is STILL today trying to screw over our returning troops!!
Yep, that “fat” in budgets going to disabled troops has to end, but not fat going to defense contractors!! (**sarcasm alert)
chazandru over 11 years ago
Objectively said, Mr. Ima. Very Nice.C.
magicwalnut Premium Member over 11 years ago
“The ‘fat American’ isn’t true”You obviously don’t live in Michigan!
Jason Allen over 11 years ago
I read about a study that suggested that slightly overweight person may have a lower mortality rate than someone of normal or underweight. However the study was flawed in that the group of normal or underweight persons included cancer and terminally ill patients, whom already have a shorter than average life expectancy.
Jason Allen over 11 years ago
I have to agree with Ima. It’s beyond absurd that some people in this country are dying of health issues related to eating too much while others literally starve to death. I read an estimate somewhere that around the world, 1 person dies of starvation every 4 seconds. Just some food for thought.
d_legendary1 over 11 years ago
Its about obesity. You can eat $.99 cheeseburgers all day everyday and still be fat. Its all about empty calories.
d_legendary1 over 11 years ago
Ima said, “It has the biggest union membership state in the country. No ‘right to work’ law.”
Bzzzzz. Wrong. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/12/opinion/bennett-michigan-unions/index.html
ARodney over 11 years ago
Wow. Ima thinks that Michican is “Democrats from top to bottom?” What the hell? He’s a bigger idiot than I thought. Michigan’s Republican governor, Republican senate, and Republican house have been in the news ALL YEAR. Please, if you are SO IGNORANT, please LEARN SOMETHING before you WASTE OUR TIME.
Justice22 over 11 years ago
Poorer people eat foods that are not healthy, but do add weight. Just because a person is obese does not mean they are getting enough of the food they need. They can be starving of the vitamins and minerals they need.
corzak over 11 years ago
Obesity is choice. Pure and simple.Instead of carbs, eat vegetables. You’ll lose lbs. And save money.
corzak over 11 years ago
“Vegetables cost money and don’t last long. I can’t eat fresh vegetables every meal. Neither can they. I know they are important but I have financial limits. Now that is simple to understand isn’t it?”Yes, you CAN eat vegetables with every meal. I do.You have ‘financial limits’. So do I. Vegetables are cheaper than fast food.Compassion? I have chronic disease, pre-existing. Not eligible for public or private insurance. Pay out of pocket.
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
Malnourishment includes eating “junk foods” and is the reason so many Americans are morbidly obese. One of my nieces had bariatcric surgery and lost weight, an entire “me” of 180 pounds! She still weighs around 180, she’s 5’5", and I’m 5’11 and I still look to take off another 10-15 pounds. I was up to 194 and found it “uncomfortable”. Of course at age 35 I weighed 135 and was very physically active in my job, and ran seven miles, seven times a day, after work.
NOt everyone needs to be that physically active, and I do walk my dog pretty much every day for a mile and a half, so it isn’t all that hard, but the real culprit does seem to be American “diet”, which typically includes about 4 times the caloroies reaquired to sustaing metabolism, and it’s mostly junk, not food. A “little” on the heavy side, BMI of 25 or 26 isn’t so bad, but a BMI of 30+ where it is NOT weight due to muscle mass, is a good way to die.
Rickapolis over 11 years ago
Yup, like a little wine can be beneficial means dink a six pack of beer a night.
Call me Ishmael over 11 years ago
..and there are plenty of fat poor, because nobody educates them in how to eat. Not to mention their lack of dental care.
edward thomas Premium Member over 11 years ago
All this was after the MI gov said a right to work bill wasn’t on his agenda.
corzak over 11 years ago
“How’s that . . . healthcare system working for you? Gotta love it when your lifespan extends only as far as your checkbook.”Lol. Obviously, the healthcare “system” is not working for me at all. And I expect . . . that all of us in the ‘post-boomer’ generations, should expect the same in the decades to come.
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
Onguard: Actually, “progression” is an interesting issue for many veterans, especially from "Nam. PTSD, you “get by” as best you can, and the job you’re doing, and where you live, can help. Type II diabetes, peripheral neuropathy, fibromyalgia, and secondary effects from primary injuries in combat areas, “sneak up” on a lot of us as we get older. Things that military folks say aren’t “progressive”, certainly are, as with rheumatoic or osteoarthritis, even non-related things come up as we age.
Amputees and paraplegics, and quads, are “visible” disabilties. Many more disabilities are NOT “visible” to the outside “civilian”, like my hearing loss of 95dB in the left ear, and 50 dB loss in the right(some,but not all frequencies), directly related to combat, but even years later, not directly compensated, because the Army just happened to “lose” THREE different hearing tests before purged records were forwarded to St Lous records center. And, btw, being basically deaf in one ear doesn’t affect running ability, but sure makes it hard to hear a radio out of the worst ear!! (always had to turn my right ear to the radio to understand any calls I got, but learning to read lips, and a little ASL helped one night when three deaf guys on motorcycles ran off the cliff, and their four deaf friends had to explain to me what happened, and coordinate the rescue.)
Happily, copy machines, and computer records make it a lot easier for today’s vets to have copies, or access to, their records, so the military has a harder, but not impossilbe, time “losing” them. My son by the way has had three surgeries so far on his foot, needs more, still can’t walk more than a block or two without severe pain, even with his cane, but while the miitary says it’s not “combat related” (he’s medically retired after 13 years service) the VA is trying to help, but the Pentagon is STILL today trying to screw over our returning troops!!
Yep, that “fat” in budgets going to disabled troops has to end, but not fat going to defense contractors!! (**sarcasm alert)
Justice22 over 11 years ago
onguard, You are totally insensitive and obviously know nothing about the military and consequences of serving.
Call me Ishmael over 11 years ago
Money is the root of all..everything.