Two people see someone raising a flag shaped like an automatic weapon. It reads "Guns." Woman: Is this progress?
at 31+ victims a day, yep.
Suicides using guns is up too, but since the NRA made it illegal to keep track, we don’t know how much.
Guns are not the problem. If guns were a problem the Swiss would be ankle deep in blood instead of having the lowest gun death rate in the “civilized” world. The rate of gun deaths is only one symptom of many. Our problem is cultural and no one is willing to admit that.
@cdward and @mikefive:
Although I cannot speak for either view of the Swiss system with any authority, M5 is absolutely correct when he says “Our problem is cultural.” Certainly not enough people are willing to admit to that, or at least not enough in positions of having the power to change that.
It is sad that after thousands of years of religious faith, the basic tenets of religion are not adhered to by the societies who claim its importance.
Still waiting for the NRA to support all those people who against police brutality. They said under oath to defend themselves from jack-booted gov’t thugs. They should be training and supplying whole minority communities on proper use of firearms. Because, they said to protect themselves from a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. And, they should be supporting all those minority communities with stand your ground laws. Heard there is a bunch of jack-booted gov’t thugs in fairfax county, virginia .
“You will have to pass a marksmanship test at regular intervals (or you’re gonna be spending your weekends with the military polishing up your skills).”.Therein lies the rub. Our country is divided so any mention of gun education (like it seems they have in Switzerland) would be met with a “guns are bad” wave of political correctness.
The NRA Response to the shootings in Charleston was to announce that the Dead Pastor was to blame because he didn’t encourage everyone in his Flock to bring their guns to Bible Study..You know, Just In Case some “Good Guy With a Gun” was needed that night..Of course, we all know that if one of the Victims HAD been Armed, the Police would have sent in the SWAT Team to “Control” the situation.…
The reason the Charleston Terrorist is Alive and In Custody is that he apparently expected the Police Arresting him to Agree with him and greet him as a Hero..And, all things considered, they Did treat him with Extraordinary Kindness for a Mass Murderer..Just Contrast that with the way Police in Ohio arrest 12 year old Black boys.Oh, wait, we can’t. They didn’t Arrest the kid. They Executed him..
“So I think the problem is that we treat firearms way too casually. The Swiss do not. If that is cultural, so be it, but then the laws of Switzerland reflect their culture and the laws of the US ours.”That sums things up perfectly. The NRA, et al have staked out an extreme position on the Second Amendment. They see freely & easily available guns as a solution, not a problem.If, as they insist, the only part of the Second Amendment that counts, is “shall not be infringed”, then it’s time to repeal & replace…
One thing our culture suffers from that the Swiss don’t: A slavish romanticization of the “Wild West” that borders on religious idolatry. A section of this society worships the idea of a white man with a white hat and a gun riding into town, dispensing his own brand of justice with said gun, “pacifying” the “savages”, and riding off with the girl- and everybody else knew he was in the right because, when the gunsmoke cleared, he was the one still standing.It’s a childish combination of “might makes right” and hero-fantasy.
“Mike, I am very familiar with the Swiss situation. Let me just say that firearms, particularly handguns,…”♦I lived in a state that had handgun regulations not quite as strict as the Swiss, but close. There is still no shortage of handguns in Switzerland. Something that I find bizarre is that the state I currently live in changed their handgun laws a few years back to where they are looser than even what the NRA was lobbying for. Whoda thunkit.
Gun law in Switzerland is by canton. If you move to another canton, it’s like changing states in the US.
An acquisition license is required primarily for handguns. Rifles and semiautomatic long arms that are customarily used by recreational hunters are exempt from the licensing requirement,44 whereas fully automatic guns are banned.45 An applicant for a weapons license must be at least eighteen years of age, may not have been placed under guardianship, may not give cause for suspicion that he would endanger himself or others with the weapon, and may not have a criminal record with a conviction for a violent crime or of several convictions for nonviolent crimes.46 The license is issued by the canton of residence of the applicant but is valid throughout Switzerland. The license is valid for six months, maximally nine months.47 It is usually valid for the acquisition of one weapon only.48
The acquisition license is required only if a weapon is acquired from a dealer. No license is required for transactions between private individuals. Instead, these are permitted as long as the seller verifies the identity and age of the buyer by checking an official identification document and as long as he has no reason to believe that the buyer has been or should be disqualified from gun ownership. The buyer may ascertain these circumstances by requesting information from the cantonal authorities, but only if the buyer consents in writing.49
The carrying of a gun for defensive purposes requires a carrying license, which will be granted only if the applicant is qualified to acquire guns; demonstrates a need for the weapon to protect himself, others, or property against existing dangers; and has passed an exam to test his required theoretical knowledge and practical skill.50 The theoretical exam tests knowledge of•criminal provisions on violent crimes and self-defense, and necessity as a justification or excuse;•federal and cantonal weapons law provisions;•types of weapons and ammunition; and•security measures and proper conduct when carrying weapons.51
The practical examination tests the applicant’s skill in handling the weapon, including loading, unloading, operating the safety device, and shooting.52
Little note for the reviewers of this material – that’s from the library of Congress research pages, which is all public domain. Fair use doesn’t apply, the public owns it already.
I love how Lefties on here sit on their IPads in the suburbs try to tell single mothers or old ladies in Chicago or Detroit at night who are just praying some thug doesn’t knock down their front door that they should sit unarmed and hope they’re not raped or killed.Very nice.
You and Liver are the trolls with no answer to my serious point so you name call.So sad.
April 12, 2017