Jim Morin for November 24, 2009

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    believecommonsense  over 14 years ago

    Sometimes it seems like the far right and the GOP are trying to resurrect the John Birch Society and Goldwater.

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    toasteroven  over 14 years ago

    Anyone here actually buy Palin’s new book? I have not, and I do not intend to. Frankly, I try to avoid both the New Releases and the Current Events sections as much as possible.

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    NoFearPup  over 14 years ago

    GOP membership is down?

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    HUMPHRIES  over 14 years ago

    Surprised poopy ?

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    charliekane  over 14 years ago

    Ried much, ‘Nan?

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    tpenna  over 14 years ago

    ^^ Third-grade insult, rinse, repeat (again and again and again and…)

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    jmworacle  over 14 years ago

    ANandy said, about 3 hours ago

    Morin might show the BozOTUS poster labeled “America’s Great Joke” or the “Three Stooges” poster, BozOTUS, Pelosi and Read

    That is an insult to one of the finest comedy acts ever. By the way, if Sarah Palin is so unqualified, why are the established politicos in such a tizzy about her. I can understand the country club republicans, but wouldn’t make common sense that the dems would do everything they could to prop her up………..

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    johndh123  over 14 years ago

    believecommonsense said, about 10 hours ago

    “Sometimes it seems like the far right and the GOP are trying to resurrect the John Birch Society and Goldwater”

    How so believe?

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    johndh123  over 14 years ago

    “… if Sarah Palin is so unqualified, why are the established politicos in such a tizzy about her. I can understand the country club republicans, but wouldn’t make common sense that the dems would do everything they could to prop her up……” You are absolutely right to ask that question. After all, most states do not allow a registered Republican or Democrat to vote in the other parties primary elections to avoid that very premise. Perhaps to all our friends on the left, the reason for her unimagined success on the book sales, is that she is soooo demonized, marginalized by you, many folks out there feel to stir up such a negative backlash, she MUST have something worthwhile to say!

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    petergrt  over 14 years ago

    40% of Americans identify themselves as conservative, yet less than 20% of Americans are Republicans.

    Ergo, the Republican party is too conservative - that is the problem.

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    Magnaut  over 14 years ago

    the GOP needs to be quiet and let real conservatives lead

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    Dtroutma  over 14 years ago

    BCS- the JBS is alive and well, sending “letters to the editor” and “guest editorials” to newspapers all around the country and getting them published in small publications, especially in conservative communities.

    Scooter- the right wing is left wing???? Hey, either lay off those mushrooms, or share them so others can totally lose all touch with reality!!

    The real tragedy is that Ronnie didn’t just stay on “Death Valley Days”, doing ads for GE, and leave the country alone.

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    believecommonsense  over 14 years ago

    thingie, and not just asbestos, remember the deliberate toxic dumping of one of their companies detailed in Jonathan Harr’s “A Civil Action?”

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    believecommonsense  over 14 years ago

    john123, if you look into the John Birch Society on wikipedia, you’ll find many similarities. While some of their “positions” sound reasonable, the JBS seldom was in practice.

    They were strong opponents of all the civil rights legislation in the ’60s, including the civil rights legislation guaranteeing blacks the right to vote by striking down the quasi-official “tests” created in many places to prevent blacks from voting. (The most famous one I remember is an area in the south that would ask blacks to answer the question, “How many bubbles are in a bar of soap.”

    The JBS opposed de-segregation of education and passage of worker safety standards. They were more vocal and clear about what they opposed than they were what they stood for. They indulged in much rhetoric but offered no solutions to issues facing a changing nation and world.

    They advocated the impeachment of Chief Justice Earl Warren, primarily because of civil rights legislation. As a child, I saw many of their “IMPEACH EARL WARREN” billboards while traveling to visit relatives in Oklahoma. (I lived in Oklahoma until the age of eight.) The number of vilifying billboards always increased the more we drove into southern states.

    They reached their peak at the time of Goldwater’s candidacy for President.

    Yes, it does seem their political plays and ploys are being resurrected, even if not by design.

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    Copperdomebodhi  over 14 years ago

    Today’s Teabaggers are the John Birch Society redux. Glenn Beck is pushing a book called “The 5,000 Year Leap” by W. Cleon Skousen. The guy was a prominent defender of the John Birch Society - every other conservative organization shunned him for being the deranged lunatic that he was.

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    OmqR-IV.0  over 14 years ago

    BCS: Thanks for reminding me about the JBS. In the early ’80s as a young teen I would read the John Birch Society being satirised in MAD magazine and never understood what they were. sigh no internetz back then :p

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    petergrt  over 14 years ago

    John Birch was a Democrat, as was the Society he created;

    The Civil Rights legislative effort by LBJ was brought to fruition by Republicans, over the objections of most Democrats;

    EARL WARREN was the worst Chief Justice in history of the US, though none of his trespasses probably reached the level justifying an impeachment. The US Constitution has all but lost its meaning under his rule, and he established precedents that effectively rendered it a meaningless, “living & breathing document”;

    The most failed Republicans were philosophically Democrats.

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    Dtroutma  over 14 years ago

    Might look up a guy named Welch. JBS is still quite active, and still lunatic right wingers.

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    believecommonsense  over 14 years ago

    About JBS: “The society is on the right of the American political spectrum.” and “The society stated it opposed aspects of the civil rights movement in the 1960s because of concerns that the movement had communists in important positions. It opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, saying it was in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution and overstepped the rights of individual states to enact laws regarding civil rights.”

    Peter said: The Civil Rights legislative effort by LBJ was brought to fruition by Republicans, over the objections of most Democrats.

    What a bold and audacious lie!

    The landmark legislation passed with the weight of Johnson himself and other Demos who fought and successfully overcame the filibuster by Reps and southern Democrats.

    On the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert Byrd completed an address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier opposing the legislation. Until then, the measure had occupied the Senate for 57 working days, including six Saturdays. A day earlier, Democratic Whip Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota, the bill’s manager, concluded he had the 67 votes required at that time to end the debate and end the filibuster. With six wavering senators providing a four-vote victory margin, the final tally stood at 71 to 29. Never in history had the Senate been able to muster enough votes to cut off a filibuster on a civil rights bill.

    Key to the passage of the Civil Rights Act were not just the congressional maneuvers, but also the public pressure. … The graphic incidents in St. Augustine, including the arrest of Dr. King at a segregated restaurant, the largest mass arrest of rabbis in American history, the arrest of the 72-year-old mother of the governor of Massachusetts, wade-ins at St. Augustine Beach, many brutal beatings, and the pouring of acid in a motel pool when an integrated group was swimming there, demonstrated for the American people the need to pass the law.

    Some of this background should sound familiar … filibusters, claiming opposition because state rights were paramount …. oh wait, whoops, now the Reps want to do away with state rights to regulate insurance ….gosh durn, those stupid states shouldn’t have a right to protect their residents from big insurance abuses. But the tendency to say anything that works to protect the wealthy and influential is still quite similar.

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    petergrt  over 14 years ago

    “Peter said: The Civil Rights legislative effort by LBJ was brought to fruition by Republicans, over the objections of most Democrats.

    What a bold and audacious lie!

    The landmark legislation with the weight of Johnson himself and other Demos who fought and successfully overcame the filibuster of Reps and southern Democrats.

    On the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert Byrd completed an address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier opposing the legislation.”

    Just because Robert Byrd was once a high level member of KKK, that does not make him a Republican, or does it?

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    petergrt  over 14 years ago

    “Peter said: The Civil Rights legislative effort by LBJ was brought to fruition by Republicans, over the objections of most Democrats.

    What a bold and audacious lie!

    The landmark legislation with the weight of Johnson himself and other Demos who fought and successfully overcame the filibuster of Reps and southern Democrats.

    On the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert Byrd completed an address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier opposing the legislation… .” Filibuster!

    Just because Robert Byrd was once a high level member of KKK, that does not make him a Republican, or does it?

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    believecommonsense  over 14 years ago

    peter, what’s the matter with you? I didn’t say Byrd was a Rep, he’s one of the southern Democrats I mentioned quite clearly. What is your point?

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