Let’s see, bombs from F-16’s against rock-throwing demonstrators in Gaza, yup, that’s a fair fight all right. Build a few hundred more settlements on land you took, so you can’t point out that it’s “impractical” to suggest a pullout, right. Your’e the only one in the neighborhood with hundreds of nukes, but you’re “out gunned” by your neighbors- right. You attacked the U.S. Navy, just like Al Qaeda in Yemen, but YOU are our “friend”, who spies on us and sells our secrets.
As the “Arab Spring” shines a light on the middle east, maybe it’s finally time to reveal who has really operated for over 60 years in the shadow of post -WW II guilty consciences, quite profitably.
It is time to stop pretending the junk yard dog is just a defenseless puppy. Even the junk yard dog does NOT deserve to be “put down”- but he does need to be kept either inside the fence, or on a leash.
I thought Arab Spring meant the flowering of democracy.At some point we are going to have to back out if we can’t pay our bills here, why keep running up more bills for countries who want us out.
Anti-semitism is the hating of Semites. Includes Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, Arabs, and Ethiopian Semites.Yeah, I’m with you there, plenty of anti-semitism in the world today.
Bruce said: I believe they are showing maximum restraint in NOT nuking those that attack them?“
Believe? This long on this forum with folks gotten rapped over the knuckles numerous times about the word “believe” and still using it…Dude, they’re not “showing restraint”, they are adhering to the M.A.D. principle. They would never launch a nuclear device in their own backyard. Don’t make them out to be stupid.Restraint indeed. pffft.Bruce said: ”…world stands by as forces gather to eradicate “kill every Jew”. And the US would stand with those forces? "That tea you’ve been drinking lately, someone spiking it? Bring along your own tea to your next meeting, in a thermos or something.
The Greeks had, briefly, the only true “democracy”. Trying to cite Israel “democratic” is nearly as far-fetched as calling Iran one. Turkey comes closer, and gee, it’s a primarily Islamic Republic.(but the Kurds can relate to those in Gaza)
A few points, which everybody ought to understand by now:
1) It’s possible to be anti-Zionist without being an anti-Semite (in the common usage of “Jew-hater”). There are even Jews who don’t support a Jewish state, for solid religious reasons, and that doesn’t necessarily make them “self-hating Jews.”
2) It’s possible to support the existence of Israel and condemn the policies and actions of its government. I don’t say “My country, right or wrong” concerning my OWN country, and I wouldn’t accept it from anyone else concerning THEIRS.
3) Not all of Israel’s neighbors want to drive them into the sea on general principle, but some of them do, and they don’t hide the sentiment.
I’m pro-Jewish, and pro-Israel, but I’m also pro-peace. I don’t know what it’s going to take to bring that peace about, though. The issue’s too volitile, too many people see no middle ground, and perhaps the best we can ever hope for is an uneasy peace, with some sort of status quo that stays in place long enough for everybody to get used to it.
With that in mind, however, I offer this “Modest Proposal”:Within the Moslem world, we maintain a Jewish State (which we have). Within the Jewish State, we maintain Moslem territories (which we have). Within each Moslem territory, we set up a Jewish city. Within each Jewish city, we set aside a Moslem quarter. In the Moslem quarter, we have a Jewish neighborhood. In the Jewish neighborhood, we build a Moslem apartment block. In one of the Moslem apartments, we house a Jewish family. Into that Jewish family, we place a Moslem orphan, and mandate that they raise the child Muslim.
Each layer would be responsible for the well-being of the layer below them, to be monitored and enforced by the level above them. Every act of hostility or breach of the peace would allow a certain balancing reprisal, either upwards or downwards, but only to a diminishing degree. For instance, a Code-3 infraction at the City level would only allow for a Code-2 reprisal against the Quarter or Territory, which would only allow a Code-1 response by the Neighborhood or State (respectively).
true, seriously, creeping sharia law? I seriously doubt it, because it’s an impossible fear tactic designed to generate fear. I worry more about my fellow Americans than I do anything that Arabs or Muslim could do to us……What’s up? Canadians aren’t usually that paranoid…
Dtroutma almost 13 years ago
Let’s see, bombs from F-16’s against rock-throwing demonstrators in Gaza, yup, that’s a fair fight all right. Build a few hundred more settlements on land you took, so you can’t point out that it’s “impractical” to suggest a pullout, right. Your’e the only one in the neighborhood with hundreds of nukes, but you’re “out gunned” by your neighbors- right. You attacked the U.S. Navy, just like Al Qaeda in Yemen, but YOU are our “friend”, who spies on us and sells our secrets.
As the “Arab Spring” shines a light on the middle east, maybe it’s finally time to reveal who has really operated for over 60 years in the shadow of post -WW II guilty consciences, quite profitably.
It is time to stop pretending the junk yard dog is just a defenseless puppy. Even the junk yard dog does NOT deserve to be “put down”- but he does need to be kept either inside the fence, or on a leash.
rockngolfer almost 13 years ago
I thought Arab Spring meant the flowering of democracy.At some point we are going to have to back out if we can’t pay our bills here, why keep running up more bills for countries who want us out.
OmqR-IV.0 almost 13 years ago
Anti-semitism is the hating of Semites. Includes Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, Arabs, and Ethiopian Semites.Yeah, I’m with you there, plenty of anti-semitism in the world today.
OmqR-IV.0 almost 13 years ago
Bruce said: I believe they are showing maximum restraint in NOT nuking those that attack them?“
Believe? This long on this forum with folks gotten rapped over the knuckles numerous times about the word “believe” and still using it…Dude, they’re not “showing restraint”, they are adhering to the M.A.D. principle. They would never launch a nuclear device in their own backyard. Don’t make them out to be stupid.Restraint indeed. pffft.Bruce said: ”…world stands by as forces gather to eradicate “kill every Jew”. And the US would stand with those forces? "That tea you’ve been drinking lately, someone spiking it? Bring along your own tea to your next meeting, in a thermos or something.
Dtroutma almost 13 years ago
The Greeks had, briefly, the only true “democracy”. Trying to cite Israel “democratic” is nearly as far-fetched as calling Iran one. Turkey comes closer, and gee, it’s a primarily Islamic Republic.(but the Kurds can relate to those in Gaza)
fritzoid Premium Member almost 13 years ago
A few points, which everybody ought to understand by now:
1) It’s possible to be anti-Zionist without being an anti-Semite (in the common usage of “Jew-hater”). There are even Jews who don’t support a Jewish state, for solid religious reasons, and that doesn’t necessarily make them “self-hating Jews.”
2) It’s possible to support the existence of Israel and condemn the policies and actions of its government. I don’t say “My country, right or wrong” concerning my OWN country, and I wouldn’t accept it from anyone else concerning THEIRS.
3) Not all of Israel’s neighbors want to drive them into the sea on general principle, but some of them do, and they don’t hide the sentiment.
I’m pro-Jewish, and pro-Israel, but I’m also pro-peace. I don’t know what it’s going to take to bring that peace about, though. The issue’s too volitile, too many people see no middle ground, and perhaps the best we can ever hope for is an uneasy peace, with some sort of status quo that stays in place long enough for everybody to get used to it.
With that in mind, however, I offer this “Modest Proposal”:Within the Moslem world, we maintain a Jewish State (which we have). Within the Jewish State, we maintain Moslem territories (which we have). Within each Moslem territory, we set up a Jewish city. Within each Jewish city, we set aside a Moslem quarter. In the Moslem quarter, we have a Jewish neighborhood. In the Jewish neighborhood, we build a Moslem apartment block. In one of the Moslem apartments, we house a Jewish family. Into that Jewish family, we place a Moslem orphan, and mandate that they raise the child Muslim.
Each layer would be responsible for the well-being of the layer below them, to be monitored and enforced by the level above them. Every act of hostility or breach of the peace would allow a certain balancing reprisal, either upwards or downwards, but only to a diminishing degree. For instance, a Code-3 infraction at the City level would only allow for a Code-2 reprisal against the Quarter or Territory, which would only allow a Code-1 response by the Neighborhood or State (respectively).
Now… Where do I go for my Nobel Peace Prize?
Varnes almost 13 years ago
vortex, sounds like you don’t like Arabs or Muslims…I hope you don’t think of yourself as a Christian….
WarBush almost 13 years ago
For a second there I thought Davies was talking about trickle down economics.
Varnes almost 13 years ago
true, seriously, creeping sharia law? I seriously doubt it, because it’s an impossible fear tactic designed to generate fear. I worry more about my fellow Americans than I do anything that Arabs or Muslim could do to us……What’s up? Canadians aren’t usually that paranoid…