Matt Davies for September 25, 2009

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    CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 14 years ago

    Hmmm…yeah. Good thing there’s scottfrietas.

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    anatheist2009  over 14 years ago

    Change is inevitable, but not all change is good.

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    parkersinthehouse  over 14 years ago

    yeah, but sometimes, ANY change is good

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    fritzoid Premium Member over 14 years ago

    Y’know, one of the reasons the Greens were successful in Germany is because, there, Environmentalism isn’t seen as an exclusively Liberal cause. Pro-business, pro-industry voters recognize that it’s in THEIR best interests to keep the Black Forest from dying, to keep water clean, and so on.

    Here, the Greens are seen (and perhaps see themselves) as to the Left of the Democrats, but there it wasn’t considered part of the Left/Right spectrum (which traditionally has consisted of 6 parties rather than two, running from a viable Socialist Party to a viable Nationalist Party).

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    parkersinthehouse  over 14 years ago

    alright fritzoid! thank you - Sie sprechen die Wahrheit

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    nomad2112  over 14 years ago

    Global warming - it’s sad that fear mongering and out right lies will get you a Nobel prize and a fist full of dollars.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJ5pHVKjiI

    Carbon dioxide forms approximately 0.04% of the Earth’s atmosphere. It is essential to photosynthesis in plants and other photoautotrophs, and is also a prominent greenhouse gas. - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

    0.04% - not 1% not 1/2% - a fraction of a fraction and the Chicken Littles want us to believe that we’ll soon be living on Venus ! ! !

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    deadheadzan  over 14 years ago

    Because Superman is make believe.

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    fritzoid Premium Member over 14 years ago

    “0.04% - not 1% not 1/2% - a fraction of a fraction and the Chicken Littles want us to believe that we’ll soon be living on Venus ! ! ! ”

    It’s actually still under 0.04%, but that’s a percentage which is rapidly rising. Up until about 1750, the number had been about 0.0275, and flat. 50 years later (1800) it was about 0.0280, in 1850 it was 0.0287, in 1900 it was 0.0295, in 1950 it was about 0.310. It hit 0.0325 in about 1970, 0.0350 in about 1985, 0.0375 in about 2002. We’ll hit 0.040 soon, and the rate of increase is itself increasing drastically.

    Here’s where I got my numbers.

    http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7aCO2.html

    The fact that CO2 is essential for photosynthesis would be a lot more reassuring if we weren’t cutting down rainforests and killing the algae fields in the oceans. The rain forests are being replaced with pastureland, of course, which means cows which means methane. Methane is also a greenhouse gas, and since 1750 methane concentrations in the atmosphere have increased 150%.

    Also, when you’re talking about around 78% of the atmosphere is Nitrogen. The oxygen we live on is only about 21%. So the increases in the greenhouse gases have been taking place within that approximately 1% of the air that ISN’T those two.

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