Wolf - the Nazi’s weren’t socialists. They called themselves socialists because the term had great connotations in the 1920s. There’s a slash through the swastika because they’re calling Obama a Nazi.
I remember conservatives screaming about being called Nazis during Dubya’s term, just because they were glorifying the military, demonizing people of a different faith and claiming that any one who disagreed with the president’s foreign policy must be a traitor. If Nazi analogies were morally wrong then, what makes them okay now?
And of course, you wouldn’t know it by paying attention to the main stream media, but the only ones who are comparing obama to hitler and his healthcare reform to nazism are the followers of Lindon LaRouche. And that is because they are upset obama is not pushing single payer out loud!
Oh and I suppose you forgot the last 8 years of protests from the ever tolerant left. Say, who was Bush compared to most?
And anyway, what team has caused all of the violence at the town halls? Who is busing in union members? What president wants the people who oppose his plan to stop talking and get out of the way? Which administration came up with flag@whitehouse.gov? And what political ideology is ok with that?
So Pelosi calling protesters Nazis because someone saw swastikas in the crowd is OK then? And the sign with a swastika and a slash through it was meant to say that anything in the Federal health bill that resembled Germany’s attempt in the 30’s and early 40’s to control the population by choosing who should live based on age and mental health was evil.
But there is nothing in any bill that resembles Nazi Germany’s policies! How long until you people quit listening to the morons who are feeding you these lies?
And Spectreman, what the hell is wrong with a central email address to which we can send the false information so that it can be answered? Are you seriously frightened that the Obama administration is collecting email addresses of “bad guys”? Seriously? Do you realize how much you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist?
At last Copperdomebodhi has spoken a partial truth. We were not shouting NAZI. We were taken over by fascists. Look it up in the dictionary. Bush-Chaney was a government for, by, and of the corporations!!
There were some extreme cases that went that far, yes. They were wrong. As is Limbaugh, and anyone else who calls Obama a nazi.
And you know what, Spectreman? The exact same people who now fling about Nazi comparisons were those that wailed the loudest some people dared call Bush names. Double standards, like idiotic exaggerations, are wrong no matter who does them.
”…But there is nothing in any bill that resembles Nazi Germany’s policies! How long until you people quit listening to the morons who are feeding you these lies? ….”
Sadly, I’ll quote as an answer
“…that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. …”
Hitler had the support of the people. That’s all he needed. Mr. O. has the same huge support. We can’t afford all these programs, is all I am saying. Not that they may not be good, if good people write them. When I can’t pay the bill for something, I can’t buy it. No money for the show, stay home. I am a lower middle class conservative.
Oh come on this one is just meant to be funny, we all know the Nazi comparisons are rediculous. Obama isn’t interested in suppressing any minority and doesn’t make me feel he ever will unlike the preveious president unlike Limbaugh.
How come we can’t afford health care reform, before the health insurance companies bankrupt the country, BUT we could afford Bush’s wars? If more people are insured it will cost everyone less. I have Medicare and Social Secuity and a tiny pension - after raising 3 children alone, (not by choice) I would be on welfare or dead without those programs and they are “government run”. I bet all the big corporations and health care industries are laughing about how all these screamers at the town halls are doing the job of trying to kill health care reform for them. And scaring people with terms like nazi, socialist, communist etc by ignorant people who don’t even know what those things mean is awful. Unfortunately there are enough people who can’t think for themselves who believe all the lies. That’s scary to me.
I’m not finding much about people LISTENING to Rush (least of all Danziger). Also not much about what he was responding to, which was Pelosi’s comments about swastikas.
I’ve noticed that it’s easiest for MSM to beat up on Rush when a rebuttal takes more than a soundbyte, maybe cuz they know there are so many people out there who can’t take in more than a soundbyte. Phony soldiers, Michael J. Fox, hoping Obama fails - all these take some time to understand.
So try listening, w/ an open mind, and go ahead and check his facts -THEN come back here and trash him.
Hey sclark55, I actually did listen to Limbaugh for almost two years. Atlanta’s NPR affiliate station starts playing classical music at 9 and doesn’t stop until 3. Frequently, I am commuting during those hours, and I don’t like listening to music. So I listened to Limbaugh and Beck. So I know what I’m talking about. (I’ve since gotten an iPod and can now listen to intelligent talk radio like the Diane Rehm Show.)
How many ways must you contort the truth in order to make Limbaugh seem remotely like a defensible truth-teller?
As for the alleged Pelosi swastika comment, I’ll repost from another page:
Hang on, churchillwasright. Are you saying that Pelosi should receive flack for her unquestioned observation of the fact that protesters were carrying swastikas to events? And you’re sore that the media hasn’t picked up on this?
Dude, she was clearly attempting to emphasize the unreasonableness of the people who were making fallacious comparisons of their congressmen and president to Nazis. You really jumped from this obvious interpretation to the notion that she was somehow comparing the protesters to Nazis? Ha!
I respect a conservative who argues policy with the president honestly and frankly. In fact, I believe we deeply need such conservatives, and there are many of them.
But Limbaugh (and Beck, for that matter) is not that kind of conservative. Instead, he is a hate-filled bellicose jerk.
tpenna, you’ve pretty much focused the point but don’t let strippy frustrate you, his posting are mostly from his imagination and he desperately wants attention.
tpenna says:NO!!! It is never OK to call anybody a Nazi who isn’t actually a Nazi!
Amen! The Nazi name-calling is an overplayed joke! It’s a sure-fire sign that you’re out of comebacks.
Can’t come up with something half intelligent so you resort to calling them Nazis, Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Satan, etc. Or if you’re really stupid, “Fugly”.
Gotta love Republicans. “Obama is a Nazi! Anyone who criticizes us for calling Obama a Nazi is also a Nazi! Anyone who points out that national health care has nothing to do with Nazism is a Nazi and a Communist!”
Who was it that said that these people standing up and speaking out against Obamacare in these town halls and outright saying that these people carried Swastikas around and were “un-American”? Last I checked the swastika was the symbol of the Nazi party…so she is essentially doing the same thing as Rush but to a different group of people.
Republicans and Democrats alike have used the “unAmerican” argument against those who do not agree with them…Nancy Pelosi most recently.
Last I checked dissent is as American as it gets. Not everyone is going to agree on things and our founding fathers knew this. This is why they designed our government the way they did and set the boundaries for our government the way they did…boundaries that our government has gladly and shamelessly overstepped.
I think it is absolutely cowardly of the White House, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid to attack those who oppose this healthcare reform. Instead of encouraging debate and addressing these concerns directly in order to settle the issue they have instead launched personal attacks against these people who DARE disagree with their Holy Decree.
What I want to know is when and in what war did Mr Limbaugh earn an Eiserne Kreuz (Iron Cross) ? I don’t remember the Prussian Kingdom or its successors being that liberal about awarding them to those who only fought with their big mouths….
jkshaw over 14 years ago
Does Limbaugh even know what a Nazi was?
chromosome Premium Member over 14 years ago
Sometime that guy’s mind seems to be in a state of Limbaugh.
HUMPHRIES over 14 years ago
Question, is the NAZI HQ still in Lincoln Nebraska ? If so Limbaugh should visit, he’d fit right in.
ynnek58 over 14 years ago
Limbaugh an idiot – I’m not sure why ANYONE pays any attention to him – and I’m no socialist!
wolfhoundblues1 over 14 years ago
NAZI is short for National Socialist.
Who are the socialists?
Look at the video of the protesters. They have a slash through the swastika.
Copperdomebodhi over 14 years ago
Wolf - the Nazi’s weren’t socialists. They called themselves socialists because the term had great connotations in the 1920s. There’s a slash through the swastika because they’re calling Obama a Nazi.
I remember conservatives screaming about being called Nazis during Dubya’s term, just because they were glorifying the military, demonizing people of a different faith and claiming that any one who disagreed with the president’s foreign policy must be a traitor. If Nazi analogies were morally wrong then, what makes them okay now?
Spectreman over 14 years ago
And of course, you wouldn’t know it by paying attention to the main stream media, but the only ones who are comparing obama to hitler and his healthcare reform to nazism are the followers of Lindon LaRouche. And that is because they are upset obama is not pushing single payer out loud!
Oh and I suppose you forgot the last 8 years of protests from the ever tolerant left. Say, who was Bush compared to most?
And anyway, what team has caused all of the violence at the town halls? Who is busing in union members? What president wants the people who oppose his plan to stop talking and get out of the way? Which administration came up with flag@whitehouse.gov? And what political ideology is ok with that?
Pathetic.
Kingoswald Premium Member over 14 years ago
You’re a hoot, Spectreman. Fox News can’t pay you too much for your services ….
rf_in_va over 14 years ago
So Pelosi calling protesters Nazis because someone saw swastikas in the crowd is OK then? And the sign with a swastika and a slash through it was meant to say that anything in the Federal health bill that resembled Germany’s attempt in the 30’s and early 40’s to control the population by choosing who should live based on age and mental health was evil.
tpenna over 14 years ago
But there is nothing in any bill that resembles Nazi Germany’s policies! How long until you people quit listening to the morons who are feeding you these lies?
And Spectreman, what the hell is wrong with a central email address to which we can send the false information so that it can be answered? Are you seriously frightened that the Obama administration is collecting email addresses of “bad guys”? Seriously? Do you realize how much you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist?
tpenna over 14 years ago
And Spectreman says: “but the only ones who are comparing obama to hitler and his healthcare reform to nazism are the followers of Lindon LaRouche.”
Dude, if you believe that pack of lies, then you’re beyond hope. So you think that Limbaugh and his ilk are all LaRouche supporters?
hastynote Premium Member over 14 years ago
At last Copperdomebodhi has spoken a partial truth. We were not shouting NAZI. We were taken over by fascists. Look it up in the dictionary. Bush-Chaney was a government for, by, and of the corporations!!
4uk4ata over 14 years ago
“Say, who was Bush compared to most?”
There were some extreme cases that went that far, yes. They were wrong. As is Limbaugh, and anyone else who calls Obama a nazi.
And you know what, Spectreman? The exact same people who now fling about Nazi comparisons were those that wailed the loudest some people dared call Bush names. Double standards, like idiotic exaggerations, are wrong no matter who does them.
Simon_Jester over 14 years ago
Well golly and gosh darn…If ANandy says Danziger is lying, then he must be lying.
I mean, sure, he hasn’t provided a single example to back up his argument, but if ANandy says it, then it MUST be true.
Why….well, coz he’s ANandy! Don’t you get it?
Kylop over 14 years ago
”…But there is nothing in any bill that resembles Nazi Germany’s policies! How long until you people quit listening to the morons who are feeding you these lies? ….”
Sadly, I’ll quote as an answer
“…that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. …”
teaguemj over 14 years ago
Hitler had the support of the people. That’s all he needed. Mr. O. has the same huge support. We can’t afford all these programs, is all I am saying. Not that they may not be good, if good people write them. When I can’t pay the bill for something, I can’t buy it. No money for the show, stay home. I am a lower middle class conservative.
10ZEPHYR01 over 14 years ago
Oh come on this one is just meant to be funny, we all know the Nazi comparisons are rediculous. Obama isn’t interested in suppressing any minority and doesn’t make me feel he ever will unlike the preveious president unlike Limbaugh.
Henrie over 14 years ago
How come we can’t afford health care reform, before the health insurance companies bankrupt the country, BUT we could afford Bush’s wars? If more people are insured it will cost everyone less. I have Medicare and Social Secuity and a tiny pension - after raising 3 children alone, (not by choice) I would be on welfare or dead without those programs and they are “government run”. I bet all the big corporations and health care industries are laughing about how all these screamers at the town halls are doing the job of trying to kill health care reform for them. And scaring people with terms like nazi, socialist, communist etc by ignorant people who don’t even know what those things mean is awful. Unfortunately there are enough people who can’t think for themselves who believe all the lies. That’s scary to me.
SClark55 Premium Member over 14 years ago
I’m not finding much about people LISTENING to Rush (least of all Danziger). Also not much about what he was responding to, which was Pelosi’s comments about swastikas. I’ve noticed that it’s easiest for MSM to beat up on Rush when a rebuttal takes more than a soundbyte, maybe cuz they know there are so many people out there who can’t take in more than a soundbyte. Phony soldiers, Michael J. Fox, hoping Obama fails - all these take some time to understand. So try listening, w/ an open mind, and go ahead and check his facts -THEN come back here and trash him.
tpenna over 14 years ago
Hey sclark55, I actually did listen to Limbaugh for almost two years. Atlanta’s NPR affiliate station starts playing classical music at 9 and doesn’t stop until 3. Frequently, I am commuting during those hours, and I don’t like listening to music. So I listened to Limbaugh and Beck. So I know what I’m talking about. (I’ve since gotten an iPod and can now listen to intelligent talk radio like the Diane Rehm Show.)
How many ways must you contort the truth in order to make Limbaugh seem remotely like a defensible truth-teller?
As for the alleged Pelosi swastika comment, I’ll repost from another page:
Hang on, churchillwasright. Are you saying that Pelosi should receive flack for her unquestioned observation of the fact that protesters were carrying swastikas to events? And you’re sore that the media hasn’t picked up on this?
Dude, she was clearly attempting to emphasize the unreasonableness of the people who were making fallacious comparisons of their congressmen and president to Nazis. You really jumped from this obvious interpretation to the notion that she was somehow comparing the protesters to Nazis? Ha!
tpenna over 14 years ago
I respect a conservative who argues policy with the president honestly and frankly. In fact, I believe we deeply need such conservatives, and there are many of them.
But Limbaugh (and Beck, for that matter) is not that kind of conservative. Instead, he is a hate-filled bellicose jerk.
tpenna over 14 years ago
NO!!! It is never OK to call anybody a Nazi who isn’t actually a Nazi!
Striper, I’m sure you take solace in this fact, but you are an utterly incorrigible child.
HUMPHRIES over 14 years ago
tpenna, you’ve pretty much focused the point but don’t let strippy frustrate you, his posting are mostly from his imagination and he desperately wants attention.
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
Rush proudly coined the phrase “Feminazis”. HIs wallowers, ‘er followers, might fall into the “morononazi” class.
Don’t blame Danziger for merely recognizing what Limbulb started himself.
Breaking an egg is also not killing a chicken. Bombing people who did nothing to us, AT ALL, is homicide.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
Limblah deserves this toon and many more just like it, or worse. He appeals to the worst instincts in people and he gets off, and gets rich, doing so.
iamthelorax over 14 years ago
tpenna says:NO!!! It is never OK to call anybody a Nazi who isn’t actually a Nazi!
Amen! The Nazi name-calling is an overplayed joke! It’s a sure-fire sign that you’re out of comebacks.
Can’t come up with something half intelligent so you resort to calling them Nazis, Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Satan, etc. Or if you’re really stupid, “Fugly”.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
but this toon accurately reflects that shouting Nazi and Nazism and Hitler has become a consistent trick of Rush LimDumbo
Copperdomebodhi over 14 years ago
Gotta love Republicans. “Obama is a Nazi! Anyone who criticizes us for calling Obama a Nazi is also a Nazi! Anyone who points out that national health care has nothing to do with Nazism is a Nazi and a Communist!”
dwill over 14 years ago
The king of verbal vomit
dshepard over 14 years ago
This is the pot calling the kettle black.
Who was it that said that these people standing up and speaking out against Obamacare in these town halls and outright saying that these people carried Swastikas around and were “un-American”? Last I checked the swastika was the symbol of the Nazi party…so she is essentially doing the same thing as Rush but to a different group of people.
Republicans and Democrats alike have used the “unAmerican” argument against those who do not agree with them…Nancy Pelosi most recently.
Last I checked dissent is as American as it gets. Not everyone is going to agree on things and our founding fathers knew this. This is why they designed our government the way they did and set the boundaries for our government the way they did…boundaries that our government has gladly and shamelessly overstepped.
I think it is absolutely cowardly of the White House, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid to attack those who oppose this healthcare reform. Instead of encouraging debate and addressing these concerns directly in order to settle the issue they have instead launched personal attacks against these people who DARE disagree with their Holy Decree.
What arrogance!
mhenriday over 14 years ago
What I want to know is when and in what war did Mr Limbaugh earn an Eiserne Kreuz (Iron Cross) ? I don’t remember the Prussian Kingdom or its successors being that liberal about awarding them to those who only fought with their big mouths….
Henri