The evidence is there!! The problem is trying to find an impartial jury to convict OrangeJulius!! Even a “change of venue” to Mars would not help!! I, for one, would not be an “impartial juror!!” My verdict would be – hang the guilty mistkerl!!
Maybelline Oopsiepoopeditsfrillydrawersyetagain, the quintessential troll talks about hearsay evidence after 33 hearings and not one charge, no indictments. That’s might white of him. But while Hillary was asleep at the switch, the Rump actively contributed to and conspired the violent overthrow of the Capitol Building of the United States of America and even the lynching of his own vice president. The Türd Reich still supports the traitor and grifters, and his cronies and crotch goblins.
“Butter Emails” vs actual eyewitness testimony, recordings, his own speeches, his own actions as recorded during that day. Ain’t hearsay if there’s proof backing it up that is available to everyone, and with even more to come.
There are charges that DOJ could nail Trump on now. Others, though,the bigger ones, are much harder to prove in a trial, when a defense will be mounted, every piece of testimony disputed. DOJ is dotting their eyes and crossing the T’s first before proceeding.
I reiterate: it’s NOT Garland, nor the DOJ, requiring more evidence so much as gathering ENOUGH evidence that it’s irrefutable by 45’s followers. Not that even a confession on live tv would really be enough for them, rather like God admitting plagues, floods, cancer, et al. are His Oops would be enough to shake His followers’ faith.
I don’t think some people understand that a court of law is not the same as a Congressional hearing. In a court of law (here in the USA) the defendant is presumed innocent and the prosecutor must present enough evidence to convince a jury of the defendant’s guilt. That evidence follows strict rules to ensure it’s validity. The defendant is also allowed to present evidence that contradicts the prosecution’s evidence. You can’t say that happened in this Congressional hearing (by the choice of Republican’s to boycott the hearings, probably so they can say it was unfair).
Mr. Garland has to way this against setting the precedent of trying political opponents. He has to make sure he has an open and shut case. Otherwise trying your opponent as a criminal after elections could become a feature of American politics.
Charliegirl Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Yeah, we’re dyin’ here!
Patjade almost 2 years ago
Making sure every stone is turned and the noose is tight before puling the lever. You don’t want this one to get away on a technicality.
LookingGlass Premium Member almost 2 years ago
The evidence is there!! The problem is trying to find an impartial jury to convict Orange Julius!! Even a “change of venue” to Mars would not help!! I, for one, would not be an “impartial juror!!” My verdict would be – hang the guilty mistkerl!!
;-)
knutdl almost 2 years ago
The Gates of Hel!.
knutdl almost 2 years ago
“What more evidence do we need? Judas, thank you for the victim Stay a while and you’ll see him bleed!” (Andrew Lloyd Webber)
knutdl almost 2 years ago
Who is the thinker wearing glasses?
Valiant1943 Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Merrick Garland, get off the pot!
Display almost 2 years ago
Maybelline Oopsiepoopeditsfrillydrawersyetagain, the quintessential troll talks about hearsay evidence after 33 hearings and not one charge, no indictments. That’s might white of him. But while Hillary was asleep at the switch, the Rump actively contributed to and conspired the violent overthrow of the Capitol Building of the United States of America and even the lynching of his own vice president. The Türd Reich still supports the traitor and grifters, and his cronies and crotch goblins.
“Butter Emails” vs actual eyewitness testimony, recordings, his own speeches, his own actions as recorded during that day. Ain’t hearsay if there’s proof backing it up that is available to everyone, and with even more to come.
mourdac Premium Member almost 2 years ago
There are charges that DOJ could nail Trump on now. Others, though,the bigger ones, are much harder to prove in a trial, when a defense will be mounted, every piece of testimony disputed. DOJ is dotting their eyes and crossing the T’s first before proceeding.
Alberta Oil Premium Member almost 2 years ago
It’s not the evidence that is lacking but the backbone to see it through.
casonia2 almost 2 years ago
Nailed it, Mr. Markstein.
walkingmancomics almost 2 years ago
I reiterate: it’s NOT Garland, nor the DOJ, requiring more evidence so much as gathering ENOUGH evidence that it’s irrefutable by 45’s followers. Not that even a confession on live tv would really be enough for them, rather like God admitting plagues, floods, cancer, et al. are His Oops would be enough to shake His followers’ faith.
ChristopherBurns almost 2 years ago
I don’t think some people understand that a court of law is not the same as a Congressional hearing. In a court of law (here in the USA) the defendant is presumed innocent and the prosecutor must present enough evidence to convince a jury of the defendant’s guilt. That evidence follows strict rules to ensure it’s validity. The defendant is also allowed to present evidence that contradicts the prosecution’s evidence. You can’t say that happened in this Congressional hearing (by the choice of Republican’s to boycott the hearings, probably so they can say it was unfair).
Mr. Garland has to way this against setting the precedent of trying political opponents. He has to make sure he has an open and shut case. Otherwise trying your opponent as a criminal after elections could become a feature of American politics.
Durak Premium Member almost 2 years ago
It is said that the Wheel of Justice grinds slow, but fine.
I’d be willing to settle for a coarser grind in exchange for a skoosh more celerity.
AtomicForce91 Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Why not convict the cops that let people in?
rossevrymn almost 2 years ago
opspecial, ultra ammosexual, kat and alfred brown, do you think we have enough evidence?: