I think the “adults” in the DNC room are finding out how hard it is to herd voters in a direction they don’t really want to go. And I think those “adults” are doing the wrong thing, and mostly not doing it the right way.
More and more, I feel that one party or the other, or maybe both, will be destroyed in November. Since early 2016 I have thought Trump and his being embraced by the Republicans would lead directly to their destruction. It sure looks that way still. It also looks, imo, as though the Dem “leadership” learned nothing in 2016.
It’s interesting how attention is constantly being deflected from Russian interference. With that in the picture, it should be as obvious as a grizzly bear photobombing a family photo.
Won’t support Bloodmurg in the primaries unless he takes steps to disinvest himself of his business holdings. We should at least hold him the same standard as Cheetoh Pinochet.
The DNC caused their own loss of the 2016 election. They “rigged” the election for Hillary- They believed that she would be most likely to win and she had been a loyal participant in Democratic politics for decades. They put all their muscle behind her and that worked against Bernie, almost certainly causing him to be defeated in the primaries, She would have been a good president. Compared to Trump, she would have been a great president. And, she did win, by three million votes, just not in the states than have heard nothing other than Republican propaganda for decades. . The thing is the DNC is a private organization. It has no responsibility to represent the voters. It sponsors the candidate it prefers. The organization preferred Hillary. To be upset about that fact is to misunderstand that the parties exist to push their agenda, and to support the candidates that they believe will further that agenda. If you agree with their agenda, then support them. If you don’t support their agenda, then that would be a dumb thing to do, because they don’t represent you, they never promised to do so, and they have no responsibility to you. And, it doesn’t make any more sense to allow them to determine your opinion of any candidate than it would if it were your local YMCA. For that, you need to actually do a little research ( try Open Secrets) and find out who does best represent your opinions. But, most Bernie supporters, myself among them, actually agree with about 95% of the Democratic party agenda. And, most of them disagree with roughly 1000% of the Republican agenda. When a Bernie supporter says that they will refuse to vote for anyone else, which it is reported that 15% of Bernie supporters actually did in 2016, that is the epitome of stupid. Those 15% would have given us President Hillary and if anyone believes that wouldn’t be any better than Trump, they are either lying, shilling for the Republicans or completely put of touch with reality.
Bernie, like Trump, is a pandering populist who is too old. He’s also a much better man, but his socialist label gives Trumpers a chance to remain in power.
The post-1980s Democrats and especially the Republicans killed social democracy in the US, so its degeneration into plutocracy, of a kind not seen since the 1920s, was inevitable. So killing democracy when it threatens plutocracy would naturally follow, as is already being done through voter suppression by the Republicans in elections and the establishment Democrats in primaries.
Bernie Sanders’ biggest hurdle to winning a majority of delegates & the nomination is a small subset of his followers who would rather throw bombs than build bridges.
A President who is completely inflexible, won’t get much done.
We NEED a brokered convention. The pile of delegates Bernie is going to get in California and Texas are irrelevant. The Democratic candidate is going to win California and lose Texas no matter who it is. Only ten to twelve states matter and Bernie can’t win them over Trump.
Concretionist over 4 years ago
I think the “adults” in the DNC room are finding out how hard it is to herd voters in a direction they don’t really want to go. And I think those “adults” are doing the wrong thing, and mostly not doing it the right way.
DonPoole over 4 years ago
More and more, I feel that one party or the other, or maybe both, will be destroyed in November. Since early 2016 I have thought Trump and his being embraced by the Republicans would lead directly to their destruction. It sure looks that way still. It also looks, imo, as though the Dem “leadership” learned nothing in 2016.
sevaar777 over 4 years ago
American democracy, the best you can buy regardless of party…
PraiseofFolly over 4 years ago
It’s interesting how attention is constantly being deflected from Russian interference. With that in the picture, it should be as obvious as a grizzly bear photobombing a family photo.
Raging Moderate over 4 years ago
Won’t support Bloodmurg in the primaries unless he takes steps to disinvest himself of his business holdings. We should at least hold him the same standard as Cheetoh Pinochet.
Radish the wordsmith over 4 years ago
Republicans are killing democracy for ya Ted.
Madzdad the bard over 4 years ago
The Republicans didn’t stop Trump, and look at the mess they caused.
Diane Lee Premium Member over 4 years ago
The DNC caused their own loss of the 2016 election. They “rigged” the election for Hillary- They believed that she would be most likely to win and she had been a loyal participant in Democratic politics for decades. They put all their muscle behind her and that worked against Bernie, almost certainly causing him to be defeated in the primaries, She would have been a good president. Compared to Trump, she would have been a great president. And, she did win, by three million votes, just not in the states than have heard nothing other than Republican propaganda for decades. . The thing is the DNC is a private organization. It has no responsibility to represent the voters. It sponsors the candidate it prefers. The organization preferred Hillary. To be upset about that fact is to misunderstand that the parties exist to push their agenda, and to support the candidates that they believe will further that agenda. If you agree with their agenda, then support them. If you don’t support their agenda, then that would be a dumb thing to do, because they don’t represent you, they never promised to do so, and they have no responsibility to you. And, it doesn’t make any more sense to allow them to determine your opinion of any candidate than it would if it were your local YMCA. For that, you need to actually do a little research ( try Open Secrets) and find out who does best represent your opinions. But, most Bernie supporters, myself among them, actually agree with about 95% of the Democratic party agenda. And, most of them disagree with roughly 1000% of the Republican agenda. When a Bernie supporter says that they will refuse to vote for anyone else, which it is reported that 15% of Bernie supporters actually did in 2016, that is the epitome of stupid. Those 15% would have given us President Hillary and if anyone believes that wouldn’t be any better than Trump, they are either lying, shilling for the Republicans or completely put of touch with reality.
gcottay over 4 years ago
Bernie, like Trump, is a pandering populist who is too old. He’s also a much better man, but his socialist label gives Trumpers a chance to remain in power.
GreggW Premium Member over 4 years ago
The post-1980s Democrats and especially the Republicans killed social democracy in the US, so its degeneration into plutocracy, of a kind not seen since the 1920s, was inevitable. So killing democracy when it threatens plutocracy would naturally follow, as is already being done through voter suppression by the Republicans in elections and the establishment Democrats in primaries.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 4 years ago
Bernie Sanders’ biggest hurdle to winning a majority of delegates & the nomination is a small subset of his followers who would rather throw bombs than build bridges.
A President who is completely inflexible, won’t get much done.
jvscanlan Premium Member over 4 years ago
We NEED a brokered convention. The pile of delegates Bernie is going to get in California and Texas are irrelevant. The Democratic candidate is going to win California and lose Texas no matter who it is. Only ten to twelve states matter and Bernie can’t win them over Trump.