While I agree that with a country as great as us we should have a way to provide health care to all that want it, I don’t see health care as a right. It is a shame though that there are countries with far smaller GNP’s that ours with universal health care for their people.
va-scott will you ever stop spewing your BS?? I worked for an Insurance Company for years. I was one of the people answering phones from IRATE policyholders every single year when the premiums went up, up, up. Once the ACA emerged the increases became less hefty. DO NOT ARGUE — I answered the phones. Insurance was then way too expensive – but we are not a country with GREAT Health Care – like Canada, and Australia. Even Trump told Australia they have the best coverage. The cost of Health Care, itself, is NOT going down so do NOT expect insurance to cover it to go down. Remember the Insurance Companies need to pay for the health care of their insureds, the rent or mortgage for where they work, the electricity, the heat and AC, the supplies, their Lobbyists, their employees, the health care insurance premiums or a part of them for their employees, the HUGE BONUSES they hand out to the top guys, etc. They are a GREEDY bunch. So, we should face it — the cost is going to continue to soar. The ACA actually did what NO one thought could be done. It got rid of the outright denial of human beings based on a health condition among many other things!! The costs were less than the general publics’ and the deductibles rise also with the costs. We need to control the costs – and the ACA tries hard to do that. It was a gold mine to those who could not afford coverage in the open market. It really helped people working 2 and 3 jobs in order to cover health issues. It helped those who work part time where health care is not an option. Yes, there are too many small-minded people who say — too bad — they can’t afford it — it is NOT MY problem. If you are a human being it is!! I believe that the mandate to get insurance or pay a fee went to court and was approved. Most of those people probably chose the penalty as it was MUCH cheaper than the insurance premiums. At this time most of the country wants a one Payer system to stop the endless cycle.
“Conservatives say if you don’t give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they’ve lost all incentive because we’ve given them too much money.” —George Carlin
I object for the illusion of health care being “given” to the poor; and being paid for, by the poor middle class via 20k premiums for 1k worth of inferior medical service.
The core issue of those who are against prepaid healthcare is greed, selfishness and a feeling they should be one of those who get the mega-million dollar bonuses for screwing over the general public. We know which commentators fit the bill.
The “permission slip” that is issued by the powers that be to anything that wants to call itself a hospital, emergency room or whatever requires that anyone who shows up at the door be treated. If they can’t pay for it, they are not simply allowed to lie on the sidewalk outside and die, it’s illegal, and besides it would clutter up the place and be bad PR. Since everyone gets treated, and some people can’t pay for it, the cost of care for those who can pay for it is increased enough that the place can stay in business. So, the argument that we shouldn’t have to pay for those who don’t have insurance simply doesn’t hold water. We are paying, one way or the other.
amethyst52 Premium Member over 5 years ago
only if you’re rich.
SteveBenson8 creator over 5 years ago
The 20 million people covered by the ACA aren’t known for being rich.
wolfiiig over 5 years ago
The judge is hoping for a career at Fox News when the Appeals Court sees through him.
Odon Premium Member over 5 years ago
I remain amazed at the righteous who have no issue that so many have little access to healthcare.
mourdac Premium Member over 5 years ago
Basic health care’s a right in just about every nation except for the U.S.
preacherman over 5 years ago
While I agree that with a country as great as us we should have a way to provide health care to all that want it, I don’t see health care as a right. It is a shame though that there are countries with far smaller GNP’s that ours with universal health care for their people.
ellens0411 over 5 years ago
va-scott will you ever stop spewing your BS?? I worked for an Insurance Company for years. I was one of the people answering phones from IRATE policyholders every single year when the premiums went up, up, up. Once the ACA emerged the increases became less hefty. DO NOT ARGUE — I answered the phones. Insurance was then way too expensive – but we are not a country with GREAT Health Care – like Canada, and Australia. Even Trump told Australia they have the best coverage. The cost of Health Care, itself, is NOT going down so do NOT expect insurance to cover it to go down. Remember the Insurance Companies need to pay for the health care of their insureds, the rent or mortgage for where they work, the electricity, the heat and AC, the supplies, their Lobbyists, their employees, the health care insurance premiums or a part of them for their employees, the HUGE BONUSES they hand out to the top guys, etc. They are a GREEDY bunch. So, we should face it — the cost is going to continue to soar. The ACA actually did what NO one thought could be done. It got rid of the outright denial of human beings based on a health condition among many other things!! The costs were less than the general publics’ and the deductibles rise also with the costs. We need to control the costs – and the ACA tries hard to do that. It was a gold mine to those who could not afford coverage in the open market. It really helped people working 2 and 3 jobs in order to cover health issues. It helped those who work part time where health care is not an option. Yes, there are too many small-minded people who say — too bad — they can’t afford it — it is NOT MY problem. If you are a human being it is!! I believe that the mandate to get insurance or pay a fee went to court and was approved. Most of those people probably chose the penalty as it was MUCH cheaper than the insurance premiums. At this time most of the country wants a one Payer system to stop the endless cycle.
chromosome Premium Member over 5 years ago
I hope Santa gives him a nice pile of coal, or something softer and stinkier.
Richard S Russell Premium Member over 5 years ago
“Conservatives say if you don’t give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they’ve lost all incentive because we’ve given them too much money.” —George Carlin
feverjr Premium Member over 5 years ago
Betsy DeVos can’t have yacht eleven if we don’t cut her taxes….
https://www.newsweek.com/can-you-afford-betsy-devoss-lavish-lifestyle-708369
martens over 5 years ago
Full copy of UN Declaration of Human Rights (1948)
http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/
It does include health care. (article 22)
gmadoll789 Premium Member over 5 years ago
Does this ruling mean we no longer have to buy car insurance? Neat!
DuhWeldr over 5 years ago
I object for the illusion of health care being “given” to the poor; and being paid for, by the poor middle class via 20k premiums for 1k worth of inferior medical service.
mr_sherman Premium Member over 5 years ago
The core issue of those who are against prepaid healthcare is greed, selfishness and a feeling they should be one of those who get the mega-million dollar bonuses for screwing over the general public. We know which commentators fit the bill.
wiatr over 5 years ago
Just when I think Texas is turning the corner to join the real world…
Diane Lee Premium Member over 5 years ago
The “permission slip” that is issued by the powers that be to anything that wants to call itself a hospital, emergency room or whatever requires that anyone who shows up at the door be treated. If they can’t pay for it, they are not simply allowed to lie on the sidewalk outside and die, it’s illegal, and besides it would clutter up the place and be bad PR. Since everyone gets treated, and some people can’t pay for it, the cost of care for those who can pay for it is increased enough that the place can stay in business. So, the argument that we shouldn’t have to pay for those who don’t have insurance simply doesn’t hold water. We are paying, one way or the other.