Could #45’s ‘ignorance’ about the 14th Amendment just be a distraction from his failure to drain the ‘Deficit Swamp?’ { Which just increased by ONLY $1.3 Trillion! }
I was surprised to learn that “undocumented refugees” who are males 18-35 are required to register for the draft, from the Selective Service site:
With very few exceptions, all males between ages 18 and 25 must register with the Selective Service System (SSS) within 30 days of arriving in the United States. This includes U.S. born and naturalized citizens, parolees, undocumented immigrants, legal permanent residents, asylum seekers, refugees, and all males with visas of any kind which expired more than 30 days ago.
I think Andy has a point, up to a point. First, reform the entire immigration system. Then let’s talk about the issue of birthright citizenship. I’m not opposed to Andylit’s arguments per se. If you are in the country illegally, it seems appropriate that your kids cannot be citizens. BUT the devil is in the details.
If you don’t fix the cocked up mess first, there’s no implementation of this sort of thing short of fascism and authoritarian bs. That’s trump’s way. Lie, bully, lie some more, insult others, lie some more, then lie even more. Then bully some more. Then insult others. Then finish off with a few more lies topped off with lies.
For this to succeed, we would have to have a open, collaborative and fair process to overhaul these laws. Unfortunately, the very CONCEPT of any one of those three conditions is an anathema to regressives like trump and his supporters like Andylit.
So, Andy, you see there is a “libtard” like me who would be willing to make this part of the immigration debate. I might be persuaded either way, because I am open minded. But it cannot happen the way you and trump would do it. We would need to tread carefully, be deliberate and judicious, not demonstrable regressive qualities.
You see, Andylit, the evil and amoral character trump presents through his psychopathy will poison ANYTHING he does. This man taints you and EVERYTHING you stand for. If you want to have this topic as part of a sober immigration debate, bring it on. If you think trump can navigate this sort of an issue, you are as delusional as he is.
braindead Premium Member over 5 years ago
Funny when a Trump Disciple tries to satirize Trump and it turns out to be the real policy.
Andylit Premium Member over 5 years ago
Works for me. I have always agreed with Harry Reid (1993) that illegals should not be afforded birth right for children born here.
And he is correct. The family the invades together should deport together.
gopher gofer over 5 years ago
⇧ yes, because the children of immigrants (legal or not…) have obviously done so much harm to america over the centuries…
DrDon1 over 5 years ago
Could #45’s ‘ignorance’ about the 14th Amendment just be a distraction from his failure to drain the ‘Deficit Swamp?’ { Which just increased by ONLY $1.3 Trillion! }
Andylit Premium Member over 5 years ago
If the 14th Amendment includes everyone born here why did it require an act of Congress to grant citizenship to native Americans in 1924?
William Bednar Premium Member over 5 years ago
What next? Maybe, deny citizenship and/or voting rights to children of Dems?
Dtroutma over 5 years ago
Goodbye Don JR, Erik, Evanka, and Barron.
Gen.Flashman over 5 years ago
I was surprised to learn that “undocumented refugees” who are males 18-35 are required to register for the draft, from the Selective Service site:
With very few exceptions, all males between ages 18 and 25 must register with the Selective Service System (SSS) within 30 days of arriving in the United States. This includes U.S. born and naturalized citizens, parolees, undocumented immigrants, legal permanent residents, asylum seekers, refugees, and all males with visas of any kind which expired more than 30 days ago.
twclix over 5 years ago
I think Andy has a point, up to a point. First, reform the entire immigration system. Then let’s talk about the issue of birthright citizenship. I’m not opposed to Andylit’s arguments per se. If you are in the country illegally, it seems appropriate that your kids cannot be citizens. BUT the devil is in the details.
If you don’t fix the cocked up mess first, there’s no implementation of this sort of thing short of fascism and authoritarian bs. That’s trump’s way. Lie, bully, lie some more, insult others, lie some more, then lie even more. Then bully some more. Then insult others. Then finish off with a few more lies topped off with lies.
For this to succeed, we would have to have a open, collaborative and fair process to overhaul these laws. Unfortunately, the very CONCEPT of any one of those three conditions is an anathema to regressives like trump and his supporters like Andylit.
So, Andy, you see there is a “libtard” like me who would be willing to make this part of the immigration debate. I might be persuaded either way, because I am open minded. But it cannot happen the way you and trump would do it. We would need to tread carefully, be deliberate and judicious, not demonstrable regressive qualities.
You see, Andylit, the evil and amoral character trump presents through his psychopathy will poison ANYTHING he does. This man taints you and EVERYTHING you stand for. If you want to have this topic as part of a sober immigration debate, bring it on. If you think trump can navigate this sort of an issue, you are as delusional as he is.
braindead Premium Member over 5 years ago
Good discussion.
Once again, though, it excludes any mention of prosecution of businesses who hire illegals
and
the various H-1 visas that allow businesses like mar-a-lago to import ‘legals’.
As far as I know, no one knows what happens when the visas of the ‘legals’ expire — not to mention their spouses and family members.
One, we know, became governor of Louisiana.