Our congress seems only able to offer thoughts and prayers and assign blame after yet another tragedy, but can’t hear/answer the pleas of our children …
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At one point during the service, students began chanting “no more guns”, with several speaking about the need for stricter gun control.
Posts of memories and sadness over the loss of friends and family members flooded social media.
No, this was not the FBI’s fault. Ask Congress, who funds the FBI and sets the limit on resources for the FBI, whose fault it is. If I give you a tea cup, and tell you to empty the Atlantic Ocean, is it YOUR fault, or MINE when you fail?
If the FBI had gone to the shooter’s house and confiscated his guns all the gun nuts would be beside themselves with criticism. The FBI can’t win no matter what they do with these people.
I’m with Lester on this one; I, too, want to live in a country when the police can lock you up forever on the suspicion that you might one day commit a crime. Provided they are MY police, that is.
I think lester is on to something here – let us start rounding up every gun owner who the FBI has received a tip about. It would keep us a lot safer than kicking out grandmothers and doctors. Good idea Mike, let’s start rounding up anyone who has had a tip sent in to the FBI – then we won’t have a next school shooting. Finally a bi-partisan solution!
SFCGATOR, can’t take guns away under Baker Act unless convicted of a felony. Even after domestic calls, you cannot automatically incarcerate someone. There is a long, complicated, difficult process. I can imagine the outcry from the NRA and gun zealots if the FBI started taking guns from people who have had the police called for domestic or other violence. Look at Trump preventing the implementation of the SSI mental health block on guns.
SFCGATOR : Why was he able to have gun in the first place ?
“This guy has a mental health issue. Without a gun, he’d still have a mental health issue but he wouldn’t have been able to kill 17 people !” — Fran Lebowitz
Here’s another thing : without a gun that could expel magazines and magazines of ammunition the shooter would not have been able to kill so many people. Are these high capacity weapons needed for hunting ?
Oh jeez, SFCGATOR. maybe if you didn’t have your head where you hide your Saturday Night Special it would occur to you that, if the 2nd Amendment was meant to make sure US Citizens are armed for National Defense, as you say, then the “Regulated Militia” part (maybe you didn’t know that part was there) really is the crux of the Amendment, that the 2nd Amendment was never intended for individual firearm ownership and you and Justice Scalia have been wrong all along. YA THINK ?
Also, here’s another thought : you wouldn’t have cause to blame Cruz’s family, friends, schoolmates, School teachers and administrators, Florida PD and Sheriff if the Republicans hadn’t weakened gun control laws regulating who can get guns and what types of guns they can get. Maybe Cruz would never have had a gun in the first place and, if the assault weapon ban hadn’t been eliminated by the Republicans, maybe the shooter wouldn’t have killed so many people.
The 2nd amendment is there to protect us from an over-reaching government; it guarantees private ownership of firearms. If it wasn’t there, we’d probably be like the old Soviet Union by now.
braindead Premium Member about 6 years ago
The police went to Cruz’ residence 39 times.
Why didn’t the police do anything? What could they have done?
Should the police have notified the FBI?
If the FBI had investigated Cruz, what could they have done?
Mr. Blawt about 6 years ago
Seem like they were too busy making up fake Clinton scandals to stop the Russian collusion before the election. Now we are left with inane cartoons.
Guy Fawkes about 6 years ago
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That ain’t got no traitor
Is just lookin’ for a needle
That is lost in the sand
Just-a one kind favor I ask you
Allow me just-a one more chance
Say What Now‽ Premium Member about 6 years ago
Does Mr. Lester think there are only 10 people in the FBI, and they are all busy investigating the Russian scandal?
Guy Fawkes about 6 years ago
Sock it to me…
Goin’ down the river
With my Russian givers
And I wished I had delivered
But I do believe they meant it
When they told me I’d regret it
And I do so bigly sweat it
They’ll see me as a dirty hound
When the truth goes around
Goin’ down
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Wakin’ up to tweet
It’s all Siberian in the street
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I’m pretty sure I’m gonna crash
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It’s front page news
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It wouldn’t be so hard to rob
I should have taken time to think
Besides I got the picture straight
Putin must have had another date
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Goin’ down
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And now I see the life I led
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I should have learned to read instead
And now it’s really got me stumped
I can’t believe the way I humped
I’d like to get that Mueller dumped
I can’t believe they believe I’m tough
I’ve suffered enough
Goin’ down
Goin’ down
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I wish I looked before I ran
I didn’t know they’d bust my scam
Been down before, I didn’t get caught
Doesn’t anybody stay bought?
This D.C. scene is gettin’ cold
I’m hungry, sleepy, fat and old
They told me to govern nice
I should have taken their advice
I only want to go on home
I’d gladly leave politics alone
What a way to end my life
If I can I’ll keep on causin’ strife
superposition about 6 years ago
Our congress seems only able to offer thoughts and prayers and assign blame after yet another tragedy, but can’t hear/answer the pleas of our children …
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At one point during the service, students began chanting “no more guns”, with several speaking about the need for stricter gun control.
Posts of memories and sadness over the loss of friends and family members flooded social media.
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/florida-high-school-shooting-180215061404114.html
Do we have to bribe congress like the NRA does to get their cooperation?
Durak Premium Member about 6 years ago
No, this was not the FBI’s fault. Ask Congress, who funds the FBI and sets the limit on resources for the FBI, whose fault it is. If I give you a tea cup, and tell you to empty the Atlantic Ocean, is it YOUR fault, or MINE when you fail?
lonecat about 6 years ago
Mueller caught 13 Russian snipes just yesterday. Some people think it’s more important to protect Trump than it is to protect the country.
well-i-never about 6 years ago
Wow. What a lousy cartoon – from the idea to the execution.
Addled Brain about 6 years ago
If the FBI had gone to the shooter’s house and confiscated his guns all the gun nuts would be beside themselves with criticism. The FBI can’t win no matter what they do with these people.
NeoconMan about 6 years ago
I’m with Lester on this one; I, too, want to live in a country when the police can lock you up forever on the suspicion that you might one day commit a crime. Provided they are MY police, that is.
Mr. Blawt about 6 years ago
I think lester is on to something here – let us start rounding up every gun owner who the FBI has received a tip about. It would keep us a lot safer than kicking out grandmothers and doctors. Good idea Mike, let’s start rounding up anyone who has had a tip sent in to the FBI – then we won’t have a next school shooting. Finally a bi-partisan solution!
braindead Premium Member about 6 years ago
Once again:
What should the FBI have done?
ahab about 6 years ago
Russia gives Lester employee of the month snaps. The steroids are in the mail.
lonecat about 6 years ago
Is Lester witting or unwitting?
Nantucket Premium Member about 6 years ago
Since 1986, it is against the law to create a database of registered firearms.
https://www.npr.org/2013/05/20/185530763/the-low-tech-way-guns-get-traced
wolfiiig about 6 years ago
Blame the FBI, NOT the shooter! (Please repeat 500 times).
Nantucket Premium Member about 6 years ago
SFCGATOR, can’t take guns away under Baker Act unless convicted of a felony. Even after domestic calls, you cannot automatically incarcerate someone. There is a long, complicated, difficult process. I can imagine the outcry from the NRA and gun zealots if the FBI started taking guns from people who have had the police called for domestic or other violence. Look at Trump preventing the implementation of the SSI mental health block on guns.
braindead Premium Member about 6 years ago
Gator, thanks for the response.
Notify the local police, who have already been there 39 times? Why didn’t the police notify the FBI? They didn’t think it was urgent?
Confiscate his weapon(s) within 24 hrs? Didn’t Republicans just pass federal legislation making that more difficult?
You’re willing to apply those criteria on a widespread basis?
But you don’t want gummint reaching into the lives of private citizens, right?
Addled Brain about 6 years ago
SFCGATOR : Why was he able to have gun in the first place ?
“This guy has a mental health issue. Without a gun, he’d still have a mental health issue but he wouldn’t have been able to kill 17 people !” — Fran Lebowitz
Here’s another thing : without a gun that could expel magazines and magazines of ammunition the shooter would not have been able to kill so many people. Are these high capacity weapons needed for hunting ?
Addled Brain about 6 years ago
Oh jeez, SFCGATOR. maybe if you didn’t have your head where you hide your Saturday Night Special it would occur to you that, if the 2nd Amendment was meant to make sure US Citizens are armed for National Defense, as you say, then the “Regulated Militia” part (maybe you didn’t know that part was there) really is the crux of the Amendment, that the 2nd Amendment was never intended for individual firearm ownership and you and Justice Scalia have been wrong all along. YA THINK ?
Also, here’s another thought : you wouldn’t have cause to blame Cruz’s family, friends, schoolmates, School teachers and administrators, Florida PD and Sheriff if the Republicans hadn’t weakened gun control laws regulating who can get guns and what types of guns they can get. Maybe Cruz would never have had a gun in the first place and, if the assault weapon ban hadn’t been eliminated by the Republicans, maybe the shooter wouldn’t have killed so many people.
YA THINK ?mlester101 creator about 6 years ago
Pretty sure it’s not “dumbass”.
Dave Ferro about 6 years ago
The 2nd amendment is there to protect us from an over-reaching government; it guarantees private ownership of firearms. If it wasn’t there, we’d probably be like the old Soviet Union by now.