Moderately Confused by Jeff Stahler for October 23, 2017

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    formathe  over 6 years ago

    Yet curiously only 1 in 18 actually own a gun.

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    sandpiper  over 6 years ago

    But will any direction be safer?

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    jawja777  over 6 years ago

    They could always move to Chicago! They have some of the toughest gun laws in the country and you can see how it’s really helped them.

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    MeGoNow Premium Member over 6 years ago

    Run indeed. Since without a gun, it’s their only option.

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    Tinman Premium Member over 6 years ago

    A car With a drunk driver will most likely do them in.

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    RAGs  over 6 years ago

    For many in the NRA, a level piece of sand-paper is a “slippery slope.”

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    Sneaker  over 6 years ago

    I am in the NRA, have a permit to carry concealed and I have it with me the majority of the time . There is one 4 feet away from me right now, one by the bed one in the kitchen. I use a cane and a walker. It would take the police about 10 minutes to be here. Only 10 seconds to reach my gun for protection. No one in Las Vegas said anything like that a couple of weeks ago!

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    Chmeee  over 6 years ago

    " And, of course, what the Stuarts had tried to do to their political enemies, George III had tried to do to the colonists. In the tumultuous decades of the 1760’s and 1770’s, the Crown began to disarm the inhabitants of the most rebellious areas. That provoked polemical reactions by Americans invoking their rights as Englishmen to keep arms. A New York article of April 1769 said that “[i]t is a natural right which the people have reserved to themselves, confirmed by the Bill of Rights, to keep arms for their own defence.” A Journal of the Times: Mar. 17, New York Journal, Supp. 1, Apr. 13, 1769, in Boston Under Military Rule 79 (O. Dickerson ed. 1936); see also, e.g., Shippen, Boston Gazette, Jan. 30, 1769, in 1 The Writings of Samuel Adams 299 (H. Cushing ed. 1968). They understood the right to enable individuals to defend themselves. As the most important early American edition of Blackstone’s Commentaries (by the law professor and former Antifederalist St. George Tucker) made clear in the notes to the description of the arms right, Americans understood the “right of self-preservation” as permitting a citizen to “repe[l] force by force” when “the intervention of society in his behalf, may be too late to prevent an injury.” 1 Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) (hereinafter Tucker’s Blackstone). See also W. Duer, Outlines of the Constitutional Jurisprudence of the United States 31–32 (1833)."

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html

    It’s a very well written majority opinion, and well worth reading.

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    Chmeee  over 6 years ago

    No, you could actually get one if you wanted (maybe not an Abrams of course, they’re still in use, maybe a Sherman or a Patton though), as well as light artillery, or even a jet fighter. If you had the coin, time and temperament to go through the vetting process that is. (i.e., a guy who lives near me owns a MIG, which he flies from the local regional airport from time to time. Not cheap to operate, so I assume he’s pretty well off. Larry Ellison owns one too, a later model than the guy near me.).

    However, you’re point is well taken, there is a limitation as defined in the ‘well regulated’ part of the Second:

    " There seems to us no doubt, on the basis of both text and history, that the Second Amendment conferred an individual right to keep and bear arms. Of course the right was not unlimited, just as the First Amendment ’s right of free speech was not, see, e.g., United States v. Williams, 553 U. S. ___ (2008). Thus, we do not read the Second Amendment to protect the right of citizens to carry arms for any sort of confrontation, just as we do not read the First Amendment to protect the right of citizens to speak for any purpose. Before turning to limitations upon the individual right, however, we must determine whether the prefatory clause of the Second Amendment comports with our interpretation of the operative clause."

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