^^Human, with your “gas tax to pay for the war” the prices for your bicycle parts and replacement bicycles will go sky high as well as everything else you purchase. I’m sure it sounds nice though, since you claim that you don’t drive a car and live in a metro area.
It doesn’t matter where you live or what you do unless you live on an off-the-grid completely self-sustained farm and don’t use any outside commodities like electricity, etc. If / when gas prices go up again, we will all feel it because our entire economy still relies on it.
That being said because of subsidies and the what-not gas for us is cheaper than it is in most* of the rest of the world.
Best Iran policy is ignore the “chickenhawks” at home, and AIPAC. Haven’t we learned to ignore nut cases in the middle east yet, like Saddam, Karzai, Ahmedinjad(sp), OR Netanyahu? Exxon/Mobil and others in the oil cartels have pulled the strings on our “foreign policy” for nearly a century now (Mobil’s contract with Saudi in 1923), and it’s time to free ourselves. That by the way includes our refusal to supply Japan with oil from OUR Philippine territories, (obviously not the only problem- but) Viet Nam, and elsewhere around the world.
I can only guess jeff is representing the metaphorical swamp, as Iran, like Iraq and Afghanistan is a little short on them, especially as Saddam drained the wetlands in the south(which in a move intelligence, the Brits were restoring)
“Not even in Saudi Arabia is gasoline as cheap as it was in the USA in the 60’s”
But we don’t live in the 60’s now… .
“When will the USA move away from automobile / oil dependent economy ?”
I’m all for it. But infrastructure costs money, money no one wants to spend. We have these gorgeous Hydrogen cars now… but you can’t just drive that anywhere to fill it up. And the cars are insanely expensive so the average person won’t have it… so what’d be the point of building a bunch of hydrogen refueling stations? We have to make technology affordable AND ideal so that people will be encouraged to adopt it… and that takes time and money which … we don’t have.
I am all for getting out of the wars we are in, and for getting off of the Middle East Teat. We have wasted 30 years over political bickering, big corporation influence, and “not in my backyard” thinking.
The US needs a multitude of energy sources such as nuclear, wind, solar, natural gas, clean coal and offshore drilling (NOT BIOFUELS). I probably have missed some. We can’t do it all at once without destroying the economy and “main street” (I hate that phrase) America.
The fact is that much of the country and much of its industry needs autos/trucking for transportation of goods and to do their jobs and to get around. We need viable energy sources such as natural gas and infrastructure for those vehicles until something better can be developed.
Taxing gasoline hurts the poor the most, because gasoline is basically a necessary commodity today, and its cost, as Jade explained, is spread over every segment of society.
Yes, this is almost an identical strip to one Lisa Benson wrote last week, magus. Certainly a right-wing slant to this one.
My $3.15 per gallon gas is $0.425 per gallon in taxes- get real Radish. Gulf “suppliers” have dodged royalties for years now on federal oil reserves. We don’t have VAT yet, but George Will and a bunch of conservatives seem to want to see the “fair tax” turned into that.
Say did they ever find those weapons of mass destruction,
Rumsfeld said they knew they were some where North, South , East or West of Rumady*(sp) or someplace.
But on the other hand, it wouldn’t be the first time that a the wealthy of a nation did the worst for their people that happened to be the best for their personal gain.
human, I’m impressed you got pictures in here, but I have to tell you, Popular Mechanics tromped all over the myths some time ago. http://tinyurl.com/34tro8y
gbrucewilson about 14 years ago
Human, Thanks for keeping your comments current. Can anyone say “broken record”?
SpicyNacho Premium Member about 14 years ago
^^Human, with your “gas tax to pay for the war” the prices for your bicycle parts and replacement bicycles will go sky high as well as everything else you purchase. I’m sure it sounds nice though, since you claim that you don’t drive a car and live in a metro area.
Jaedabee Premium Member about 14 years ago
It doesn’t matter where you live or what you do unless you live on an off-the-grid completely self-sustained farm and don’t use any outside commodities like electricity, etc. If / when gas prices go up again, we will all feel it because our entire economy still relies on it.
That being said because of subsidies and the what-not gas for us is cheaper than it is in most* of the rest of the world.
* I hear it’s super-cheap in Saudi Arabia.
kurtjmartin about 14 years ago
Where there is blood there is big money to be made.
Motivemagus about 14 years ago
Okay, conservatives, especially those who claim Danziger is a knee-jerk liberal and pro-Democrat – WELL?
Dtroutma about 14 years ago
Best Iran policy is ignore the “chickenhawks” at home, and AIPAC. Haven’t we learned to ignore nut cases in the middle east yet, like Saddam, Karzai, Ahmedinjad(sp), OR Netanyahu? Exxon/Mobil and others in the oil cartels have pulled the strings on our “foreign policy” for nearly a century now (Mobil’s contract with Saudi in 1923), and it’s time to free ourselves. That by the way includes our refusal to supply Japan with oil from OUR Philippine territories, (obviously not the only problem- but) Viet Nam, and elsewhere around the world.
I can only guess jeff is representing the metaphorical swamp, as Iran, like Iraq and Afghanistan is a little short on them, especially as Saddam drained the wetlands in the south(which in a move intelligence, the Brits were restoring)
Jaedabee Premium Member about 14 years ago
“Not even in Saudi Arabia is gasoline as cheap as it was in the USA in the 60’s”
But we don’t live in the 60’s now… .“When will the USA move away from automobile / oil dependent economy ?”
I’m all for it. But infrastructure costs money, money no one wants to spend. We have these gorgeous Hydrogen cars now… but you can’t just drive that anywhere to fill it up. And the cars are insanely expensive so the average person won’t have it… so what’d be the point of building a bunch of hydrogen refueling stations? We have to make technology affordable AND ideal so that people will be encouraged to adopt it… and that takes time and money which … we don’t have.Magnaut about 14 years ago
the answer is and always has been drill…then we don’t need them and their leverage disappears
wminfield about 14 years ago
I am all for getting out of the wars we are in, and for getting off of the Middle East Teat. We have wasted 30 years over political bickering, big corporation influence, and “not in my backyard” thinking.
The US needs a multitude of energy sources such as nuclear, wind, solar, natural gas, clean coal and offshore drilling (NOT BIOFUELS). I probably have missed some. We can’t do it all at once without destroying the economy and “main street” (I hate that phrase) America.
The fact is that much of the country and much of its industry needs autos/trucking for transportation of goods and to do their jobs and to get around. We need viable energy sources such as natural gas and infrastructure for those vehicles until something better can be developed.
HabaneroBuck about 14 years ago
Taxing gasoline hurts the poor the most, because gasoline is basically a necessary commodity today, and its cost, as Jade explained, is spread over every segment of society.
Yes, this is almost an identical strip to one Lisa Benson wrote last week, magus. Certainly a right-wing slant to this one.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
Google “Boobquake”.
Dtroutma about 14 years ago
My $3.15 per gallon gas is $0.425 per gallon in taxes- get real Radish. Gulf “suppliers” have dodged royalties for years now on federal oil reserves. We don’t have VAT yet, but George Will and a bunch of conservatives seem to want to see the “fair tax” turned into that.
Justice22 about 14 years ago
Where’d they find all of that water in Afghanistan?
JoeRaisin about 14 years ago
“human asked,
Say did they ever find those weapons of mass destruction, Rumsfeld said they knew they were some where North, South , East or West of Rumady*(sp) or someplace.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
^not all libs think that. I don’t.
But on the other hand, it wouldn’t be the first time that a the wealthy of a nation did the worst for their people that happened to be the best for their personal gain.
Motivemagus about 14 years ago
human, I’m impressed you got pictures in here, but I have to tell you, Popular Mechanics tromped all over the myths some time ago. http://tinyurl.com/34tro8y