Har! We were in Cambodia long before Nixon. Syria is more the Gordian knot than a Rubick’s cube. No time for the big sword when it needs to be untied this time.
If you don’t hear the protests, you’re not listening, Henry, but maybe they aren’t loud because common human decency demands that Obama fix what Bush broke.
.Though I’m not surprised you’re puzzled: If your heroes understood the concept of “common human decency,” we wouldn’t be in this situation in the first place.
If you like going to war. vote republican. They are just itching to send in the troops. They have a lot of practice. What they don’t seem to be able to do is anything in Congress.
If you like having terrorists visit your country, vote democrat. They are just itching to sit on their butts and welcome you in. They have a lot of practice. What they don’t seem to be able to do is anything helpful in Congress.
Now I’ll add.Democrats also have a great record of screwing up things that were working fine. That goes for healthcare, peace, a capitalist economy and just about everything else in this country. When the pollsters call and ask “what is the number one problem that this nation is facing” and they list 5 or 6 items, I have a really hard time choosing one now because they are all major problems. I used to only have a couple when repubs were in office, Now? All of them. What is the commonality here? Dems have been in office and have had a controlling vote since 2007. So you want to continue to vote democrat because you think they will eventually get it right or that the republicans are “obstructionist” even though Reid sits on their legislation and that jerk of yours is in the WH? The definition of an idiot is continuing to beat your head against a wall and expecting a different outcome other than a bloody forehead. If you have tenderized hamburger for a forehead, perhaps you should consider moving away from the left……just sayin’.
Yes, because as long as it’s only our bombs that touch the ground, we aren’t really involved. We can claim magic bomb faeries are attacking ISIL And they’ll have to accept that because..hey. No boots.
I would have to say yours and a couple of other commentators have really proven Mr. Payne’s point for him.
Just a note on “financial disasters”, the Federal Reserve Board is a group of PRIVATE bankers, serving to determine federal policy, but NOT a “federal agency” actually. Those trilions they’ve distributed at no cost to their buddies, so they can charge exhorbitant interest to “the people”, IS why the destractions of more wars profits the MIC, while keepin the heat off the bankers.(From SEC or DOJ, thanks to laws the Congress writes with specific exemptions to protect their buddies)
You would think so, but then why has the left not opposed the President’s abrogation of the War Power’s act, a precedent that will empower hawkish presidents in administrations to come? I suspect that much of the “anti-war left” is really an “anti-Republican left,” as that is the principle they seem willing to fight for.
The White House has acknowledged for the first time that strict standards President Obama imposed last year to prevent civilian deaths from U.S. drone strikes will not apply to U.S. military operations in Syria and Iraq.
To those who complain about the accuracy of Mr. Payne’s editorial cartoons: Hyperbole is the stock and triad of editorial cartoons, and they always reflect the political leanings of the artist. I may not agree with him and his viewpoint but at least he is humorous. Very much UN-like the artist that draws Mallard Filmore, it is almost sad to read Bruce Tinsley’s self-delusional diatribes.
“- No troops on the ground, no reason to bother.”That’s got a lot to do with it. There were no “anti-war left” demonstrations when Clinton sent air strikes to help stop violence in former Yugoslavia, nor when other Presidents used our military to try to stop humanitarian crises or evacuate Americans in danger in other areas from the Congo to Thailand to Haiti.
“Many Democrats spoke the same way in the 1930’s.”This of course ignores the stupidity of imagining that many Americans were concerned with German government during the Great Depression.As the Nazi threat became clear, most of the isolationists were Republicans. Communists were against Hitler until he allied with Stalin, then when Germany opened the Eastern Front, they changed their minds. The Fords, the Tafts & most of the business establishment people were more than happy to do business with a stable Germany, led by a monster in the making. When Roosevelt signed the Lend Lease Act, declaring America “the arsenal of democracy”, 69% of Democrats supported his action. Only 38% of Republicans supported it.
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
Har! We were in Cambodia long before Nixon. Syria is more the Gordian knot than a Rubick’s cube. No time for the big sword when it needs to be untied this time.
Michael Peterson Premium Member over 9 years ago
.Though I’m not surprised you’re puzzled: If your heroes understood the concept of “common human decency,” we wouldn’t be in this situation in the first place.
Theodore E. Lind Premium Member over 9 years ago
If you like going to war. vote republican. They are just itching to send in the troops. They have a lot of practice. What they don’t seem to be able to do is anything in Congress.
lisak157 Premium Member over 9 years ago
If you like having terrorists visit your country, vote democrat. They are just itching to sit on their butts and welcome you in. They have a lot of practice. What they don’t seem to be able to do is anything helpful in Congress.
Now I’ll add.Democrats also have a great record of screwing up things that were working fine. That goes for healthcare, peace, a capitalist economy and just about everything else in this country. When the pollsters call and ask “what is the number one problem that this nation is facing” and they list 5 or 6 items, I have a really hard time choosing one now because they are all major problems. I used to only have a couple when repubs were in office, Now? All of them. What is the commonality here? Dems have been in office and have had a controlling vote since 2007. So you want to continue to vote democrat because you think they will eventually get it right or that the republicans are “obstructionist” even though Reid sits on their legislation and that jerk of yours is in the WH? The definition of an idiot is continuing to beat your head against a wall and expecting a different outcome other than a bloody forehead. If you have tenderized hamburger for a forehead, perhaps you should consider moving away from the left……just sayin’.
warjoski Premium Member over 9 years ago
Yes, because as long as it’s only our bombs that touch the ground, we aren’t really involved. We can claim magic bomb faeries are attacking ISIL And they’ll have to accept that because..hey. No boots.
I would have to say yours and a couple of other commentators have really proven Mr. Payne’s point for him.
warjoski Premium Member over 9 years ago
I don’t disagree with a large part of it. That excuses Obama going back in how?
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
Just a note on “financial disasters”, the Federal Reserve Board is a group of PRIVATE bankers, serving to determine federal policy, but NOT a “federal agency” actually. Those trilions they’ve distributed at no cost to their buddies, so they can charge exhorbitant interest to “the people”, IS why the destractions of more wars profits the MIC, while keepin the heat off the bankers.(From SEC or DOJ, thanks to laws the Congress writes with specific exemptions to protect their buddies)
TripleAxel over 9 years ago
You would think so, but then why has the left not opposed the President’s abrogation of the War Power’s act, a precedent that will empower hawkish presidents in administrations to come? I suspect that much of the “anti-war left” is really an “anti-Republican left,” as that is the principle they seem willing to fight for.
sw10mm over 9 years ago
The White House has acknowledged for the first time that strict standards President Obama imposed last year to prevent civilian deaths from U.S. drone strikes will not apply to U.S. military operations in Syria and Iraq.
Don Freeman over 9 years ago
To those who complain about the accuracy of Mr. Payne’s editorial cartoons: Hyperbole is the stock and triad of editorial cartoons, and they always reflect the political leanings of the artist. I may not agree with him and his viewpoint but at least he is humorous. Very much UN-like the artist that draws Mallard Filmore, it is almost sad to read Bruce Tinsley’s self-delusional diatribes.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 9 years ago
“- No troops on the ground, no reason to bother.”That’s got a lot to do with it. There were no “anti-war left” demonstrations when Clinton sent air strikes to help stop violence in former Yugoslavia, nor when other Presidents used our military to try to stop humanitarian crises or evacuate Americans in danger in other areas from the Congo to Thailand to Haiti.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 9 years ago
“Many Democrats spoke the same way in the 1930’s.”This of course ignores the stupidity of imagining that many Americans were concerned with German government during the Great Depression.As the Nazi threat became clear, most of the isolationists were Republicans. Communists were against Hitler until he allied with Stalin, then when Germany opened the Eastern Front, they changed their minds. The Fords, the Tafts & most of the business establishment people were more than happy to do business with a stable Germany, led by a monster in the making. When Roosevelt signed the Lend Lease Act, declaring America “the arsenal of democracy”, 69% of Democrats supported his action. Only 38% of Republicans supported it.
trm over 9 years ago