Ted Rall for August 07, 2014
Transcript:
Obama admits the US tortures, but when we torture, we do it folksily. ("In the immediate aftermath of 9/11. We did some things that we got wrong, we did a lot of things that we got right, but we tortured some folks. We did some things that were contrary to our values.") (Not so contrary that Obama punished anyone) For Obama, torture victims and torturers are both plain old, regular, down home folks. ("It's important for us not to feel sanctimonious in retrospect about the tough job those folks had.") Thrill to these countrified outtakes from Barack Obama's folksy history of the world. (Some Serb folks shot an Austrian folk because they wanted Austria-Hungary's South-Slav folks to form a future group of folks called Yugoslavia." "Some folks got kinda greedy, and screwed over all the other folks." "Some German folks burned some Jew folks."
petermwolk almost 10 years ago
I was a major Obama supporter in 2008. I remember the first waves of buyer’s regret (not that Romney was a choice) when he gave a unmemorable inauguration speech – I was so sure I was going to hear a JFK-2. But there was so much difference between his nomination acceptance speech in Chicago and that … something was just so wrong.
But the second wave came when I started to hear “folks” used everywhere instead of “people”, “men and women”, “citizens”, “soldiers”, whatever. I’ve got a good ear – and all of that was as phony as hell.
We didn’t want the Bush soundtrack – “nyoo-clear”, “misunderestimate”, and, yes, “folks” – continued. We didn’t want to go back to crackerbarrel. (At least GWB was authentic in his lack of fluency.)
What an embarrassing time the last six years have been for so many of us. So very sad.
William Bednar Premium Member almost 10 years ago
Hummm. Ted sure knows how to boil down things to their base elements. With emphasis on the word “base”. Wink, wink.
derlehrer almost 10 years ago
Torture only gets the victim to say what you want to hear so the pain will stop. It is NOT effective in getting accurate information and never was...But why are you arguing with a master baiter?.
derlehrer almost 10 years ago
More here:The Effects and Effectiveness of Using Torture
RabbitDad almost 10 years ago
So the problem is the tone of voice in how Obama discussed it? Come on, people, there are bigger things to deal with than this crap.
kylegann almost 10 years ago
I thrilled to Obama’s pre-election rhetoric, but I can’t stand listening to his weekly presidential address about “the folks.” Thanks for taking it on.
hmofo813 Premium Member almost 10 years ago
US law prohibiting torture is written in such a way as to place Mr. Obama and his Justice Dept. in clear violation of law by his refusal to prosecute Mr. Bush and others in his administration. Given this, along with the Obama administration’s own torture, his murder-by-drone of US citizens, and his illegal mass surveillance of US citizens, there are enough high crimes and misdemeanors for several counts of impeachment.