sigh
While there has been expedited cases of adoptions heading to the US & Canada, these were adoptions already in process before the earthquake. New adoptions are not being processed for obvious reasons: are you bloody sure they are orphans and if they are, any other family elsewhere willing and able to take them in first. At least 1/3rd of these 33 “orphans” had parents!
These do-gooder fools are …argh! Paternalistic £$%^&*
The fact is, according to many of the kids themselves, they still had parents and had been told that they were going to a bording school.
Whatever their motivation, this group chose to ignore the law of the land. Taking kids out of the country against their will does not constitute Christian behavior.
The simple fact is these folks had NO paperwork on the kids, NONE AT ALL! These were rather cynical kidnappers. Plus the kids were being taken from their parents, or given away by their parents, they were NOT ORPHANS!
“The Conservatives workship the Flag, but hate everything it stands for, and many “Christians” worship Christ and hate everything he stood for.”
It can be pointed up if you compare ther religion OF Jesus (that which Jesus practiced and preached) with the religion ABOUT Jesus (that which Paul practiced and preached)…
Bottom line here is the Baptists think whatever decision they make on these Haitian children has God’s approval. I seem to recall that was Hitler’s way of thinking too.
Well, from what I know of it so far the group didn’t bother arranging for paperwork or looking for relatives. I wouldn’t quite call it kidnapping (though de jure it was), I definitely don’t think it was right and proper behavior. IrishEddie has a point - we don’t know everything about it - but unless something pretty major comes up, we can least form an informed opinion.
“Yeah, I know if i was a kid, I’d sure want to stay in Haiti! ”
If you had a father and a mother there, and you were a small kid, yes, you probably would. But then again, a kid is a kid. An adult who intends to adopt children from a differnt country would probably be responsible and informed enough to think that some paperwork may be involved, even in Haiti.
Either way, we’ll see how that develops - hopefully there has indeed been no malintent and the issue will be resolved to everyone’s satisfaction.
Oh, and Scott, grow a skin, for crying out loud. Not everything someone says or writes about something a Christian did is intended towards all Christians. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a traitor, a monster or a villain. What’s next, you sending Danziger a death threat?
Agreed that we don’t have all the facts. I don’t, anyway. I mean, maybe (JUST maybe) these missionaries were acting in good faith, assuming all the kids WERE orphaned… you know, sort of operating with bad information, or maybe they only heard what they wanted to hear and issued their marching orders accordingly…
OmqR-IV.0 over 14 years ago
sigh While there has been expedited cases of adoptions heading to the US & Canada, these were adoptions already in process before the earthquake. New adoptions are not being processed for obvious reasons: are you bloody sure they are orphans and if they are, any other family elsewhere willing and able to take them in first. At least 1/3rd of these 33 “orphans” had parents! These do-gooder fools are …argh! Paternalistic £$%^&*
d_legendary1 over 14 years ago
I think that’s the Moor man bible they are quoting from.
charliekane over 14 years ago
^The Qur’an?
;-)
cdward over 14 years ago
The fact is, according to many of the kids themselves, they still had parents and had been told that they were going to a bording school.
Whatever their motivation, this group chose to ignore the law of the land. Taking kids out of the country against their will does not constitute Christian behavior.
charliekane over 14 years ago
Scottie morphing into Maude?
”God’ll getcha for that, Walter!”
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
The simple fact is these folks had NO paperwork on the kids, NONE AT ALL! These were rather cynical kidnappers. Plus the kids were being taken from their parents, or given away by their parents, they were NOT ORPHANS!
kennethcwarren64 over 14 years ago
The problem is that many “Christians” now think of Christ like many Conservatives think about the Flag.
The Conservatives workship the Flag, but hate everything it stands for, and many “Christians” workship Christ and hate everything he stood for.
fritzoid Premium Member over 14 years ago
“The Conservatives workship the Flag, but hate everything it stands for, and many “Christians” worship Christ and hate everything he stood for.”
It can be pointed up if you compare ther religion OF Jesus (that which Jesus practiced and preached) with the religion ABOUT Jesus (that which Paul practiced and preached)…
comYics over 14 years ago
It can’t be divided.
OmqR-IV.0 over 14 years ago
SrB: Yes, I think “looters” is the correct term here.
kreole over 14 years ago
Bottom line here is the Baptists think whatever decision they make on these Haitian children has God’s approval. I seem to recall that was Hitler’s way of thinking too.
4uk4ata over 14 years ago
Well, from what I know of it so far the group didn’t bother arranging for paperwork or looking for relatives. I wouldn’t quite call it kidnapping (though de jure it was), I definitely don’t think it was right and proper behavior. IrishEddie has a point - we don’t know everything about it - but unless something pretty major comes up, we can least form an informed opinion.
“Yeah, I know if i was a kid, I’d sure want to stay in Haiti! ”
If you had a father and a mother there, and you were a small kid, yes, you probably would. But then again, a kid is a kid. An adult who intends to adopt children from a differnt country would probably be responsible and informed enough to think that some paperwork may be involved, even in Haiti.
Either way, we’ll see how that develops - hopefully there has indeed been no malintent and the issue will be resolved to everyone’s satisfaction.
Oh, and Scott, grow a skin, for crying out loud. Not everything someone says or writes about something a Christian did is intended towards all Christians. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a traitor, a monster or a villain. What’s next, you sending Danziger a death threat?
Wildcard24365 over 14 years ago
Agreed that we don’t have all the facts. I don’t, anyway. I mean, maybe (JUST maybe) these missionaries were acting in good faith, assuming all the kids WERE orphaned… you know, sort of operating with bad information, or maybe they only heard what they wanted to hear and issued their marching orders accordingly…
Huh. Deja vu.