That was last week. This week he is negotiating with terrorists. Next week he’ll be on vacation and the week after he’ll doing some more great stuff like savng the universe and making more free government handouts to the oppressed and undeserving!
Are the wingnuts missing the point of this cartoon? Or just changing the subject because they have nothing to say about the GOP threatening the US economy with another budget hostage crisis? The Teabaggers are the most destructive group to come along in years. They have the potential to bring the economy back to the Bush Depression. One day even the Republican voters will get it and remove these clowns from office, even if it means having to vote for a Democrat.
Having already addressed the theme of this cartoon elsewhere, I’d like to make this statement.The problem is not the tea party, or liberals, or conservatives, or Republicans, or Democrats. It is the EXTREMISTS of those groups that is the problem.Our nation is a giant carpet of diverse colors and patterns and for the most part, the center of that carpet is strong, compassionate, thoughtful, and loyal to the ideals and principles of our Constitution. But on the fringes, there are too loud, too mean, and too self interested extremists setting fires to the carpet and each is blaming other groups for the damage being done.Name calling is one symptom. Telling lies as if they were truths is another. Using tactics where the ends justify any means used is the worse.It is up to those who stand together in the middle, regardless of whether we agree on every issue or not, to find the kind of compromise and civil, respectful conversations that the extremists hate. We need to be as loud in our desire to find solutions as they are in their desire to cause havoc.There will always be issues on which we cannot agree, but does that demand we not move forward on those issues where compromise and making our nation stronger can be found?Edmund Burke said, “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”You who, like myself, want movement on the issues on which we agree, MUST raise your voices if the voices of the extremists are to be overwhelmed. Like the good Americans who stand between the Westboro Baptist Church extremists when they scream their vulgarities at the families of fallen soldiers, we must raise our voices in one song and one belief that we are a people United, and our nation is one for which we must act and speak.Respectfully,C.
Yes, ever since the 2008 election this kind of nonsense has been going on.Why can’t the GOP just PASS the bill like they have done for 100 years. It was Never Like This until they felt threatened by a black man in office.
Interesting note (at least to me): Respectful Troll made some very valuable and important points, without name-calling, without pushing buttons, without wholesale assumptive categorization. I often see posters here ask for his opinion, and rightly so. He is a voice of respectful sanity, and his message that we have to work together, rather than to fight each other, is one that I believe is the only way to advance our society.Regrettably, below his post, I count at least ten posts from others which are primarily name-calling, accusation about “the other side”, and gross generalization.No matter what we say, and who we say we are, our actions are what counts. Based on this, I have great sadness and pessimism for America’s future.Will a general elevation of level of discourse on GoComics make a difference in the future? Probably not, but “every journey belongs with a single step”.Placing blame is often fruitless. Working to remedy what needs remedy will sort things out. I challenge the posters here: do you want to be part of the problem, or part of the solution?
David, you are pigeonholing a very large group of people who are overrepresented, as are liberal groups, by a much smaller and much louder minority.I KNOW people who, disappointed with what they see as a lack of momentum in the Libertarian party, have put support to the tea party. But they are much more Libertarian moderates than “tea party” extremists. While I understand your frustration, a frustration mirrored at the other end of the spectrum by many conservatives, you do great harm to your many insightful and compassionate postings with your harsh words. You cannot bring people to the table for a conversation if you are going to pigeonhole and stereotype them with words that, if used against you, would cause hurt and anger.Understand, please… the only thing that keeps me from losing my own credibility is that word “submit” under each comment.and the words of one with one who used to post under the name Howgozit who asked me, appropriately, “What have I done to deserve something as simple and basic as respect?”Those words have humbled me to this day. No matter how much I disagree with my neighbors, I hope to be like the person who said, ""I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"If I cannot defend my positions with reason and civility, then I will seek to agree to disagree and move on.You’ve a good heart, David, and you can be a great messenger. It took me over 50 years to find my voice, and A LOT of help.Respectfully,C.The Wolf In Your Midst - I want to buy you a beer or other beverage of your choice so I can toast your wisdom, and your tone. Now I’m going to go rub my dog’s belly and think of happy wolves. :>Thanks, Wolfie.Sincerely,C.
house is about to pass a bill to fully fund everything but obamacare / the questions are will senate pass it or vote to shut down the gov? //will bho sign it or veto to shut down the gov?
Thank you for an excellent post, David. it will not surprise the more conservative among us that I have a great deal of agreement with what you, and Uncle Joe have said in your replies to me. But more than anything, your message, whether folks agree, partially agree, or disagree, is – except perhaps for the angry old men reference, readable. Keep the message, David. Defend it with links, and facts, especially if you can use news sources trusted by those who you are trying to reach. And whenever you can, tell the people to whom you write in GC, or speak to at the grocery store, to write their congressmen, vote, and remember every person you’ll pass on the street today is your neighbor.Thank you for you excellent comment with which I have nearly no reasonable argument.With sincerity and much appreciation,C.*@ Uncle Joe – * I almost totally agree with you, Uncle Joe. I would prefer conservative extremists to tea party Republicans, (do Independent extremists exist?) and of the names you mention, I will agree with all but one, and that one I think wouldn’t mind seeing bad things happen if it proved his point. It is not PAJ. However, there are some who, like some of the liberal anarchists of the 60s have no problem seeing our nation slip drastically. The hate and vitriol in their comments convince me that if their neighbor was of the opposite party and on fire, they wouldn’t even pee on them to put the fire out. No effort to find common ground, no desire to seek compromise, an attitude of my way is the only way and ends justify means. And there are some liberals who convey this level of hate and meanness so please don’t think I’m blaming anyone side.I wish I felt more optimistic, but the growth of hate groups, and the “Timothy McVeigh”/Eric Rudolph" attitudes out there are growing. I fear for my nation, and when I read comments in Yahoo, GC, and other places… I find myself fearing some of those who are my neighbors and countrymen.With great sadness,C.
RT: while the extremist “right” we see here are repetitive in their appearances, and pound hate, while putting blame on their “opposite number” (falsely) it is the propaganda theory of Goebbels in practice daily by the extreme right IN THE MEDIA! ANY “moderate” conservative is attacked nearly as viscously as their hated “left”. Any moderate, or even pretty conservative “liberal” is of course branded as “socialist” or “Communist”.
Applying logic and reason to the extremist, is of course a lost cause. While there IS a very small minority of actual “extremist” “Liberals” as well, like PETA for one misappropriated representative, their number is minute compared to those on the “right”.
The maniacal NATIONALISM of the current extreme right hasn’t a clue what this nation actually was founded upon. They DO have the exact same lack of analytical skills as those backing “that guy” in Europe in the ’20’s and 30’s that led to the horror from ’39 to ’45. NOT recognizing that fanaticism, IS our greatest danger, especially as these folks claim they are merely “moderates out to restore our values”.
The “gun issue” remains a case in point. What IS wrong with “well-regulated”, as DEFINED by the Constitution as NECESSARY in the Second Amendment? What IS the mythical basis for stating that the First Amendment only applies to CHRISTIAN “values”?? MIght I point out the two issues are NOT discordant, as using “faith” as the MAJOR REASON for our war on “terror” – read ISLAM, leads to the fear demanding access for all to guns, and continued attacks abroad as well, that only furthers the “fear” that sustains that “war”. It is a cycle of fear, driven by both nationalism and theocracy, hmmm, just like what’s driving those “natives” who oppose our intrusion in THEIR nations in the Middle East!!
Logic? Compassion? Reasoned analysis? Understanding and adjustment of attitudes, personal and public? Americans in the majority today, can’t be bothered. THAT is the saddest and most frustrating part of our “problems”.
BTW, when it comes to both long lines at the grocery store, or stupidity backed by rigidity, I have the patience of a chipmunk on amphetamines. So if my “responses” to ignorance occasionally “bite”, perhaps it is but a response to the constant taunting (of ANYONE with opposing views) of those who would stick their arms in the lions cage, “just to see what happens”.
Those despicable nerds who call themselves “Repubs” haven’t got the moral sense to see that what they are doing is simply EVIL. Destructive is an accurate term to describe these people; they can’t imagine for a moment the lives they are destroying, and for what? They achieve NOTHING.
That’s right, give the democrats everything they want and it will all be okay….right? snort Yeah riiiiigggggtt. Anyone (including the idiot toonist who wrote this) who thinks that way should be locked up in the loony bin. Of course, lets be fair……everyone on the far right needs to go there too :-)
Not sure where you get the $5000 penalty from, but that’s not what I see on this very conservative leaning website:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/17/purchase-health-insurance-or-pay-the-penalty-4-questions-to-ask-yourself/_Adults who do not carry health insurance for at least nine months in 2014 will pay a penalty (or tax, according to a Supreme Court ruling) of $95 per adult and $47.50 per child up to $285 per family, or 1% of income, whichever is greater. _The number rises through 2016, but even at the max, it’s $695 for an individual and $2085 for a family of 3 or more. Insurance for a healthy, young-ish person is about $1800 a year.
ajnotales over 10 years ago
Thank you, Mike … I’m beginning to wonder if they might also be called “traitors.”
Mark Tretter over 10 years ago
He doesn’t negotiate, he just arms them!
rockngolfer over 10 years ago
The other terrorists are 7,000 miles away.We need to load these terrorists on a cruise ship to Somalia.
Tuner38 over 10 years ago
The economy isn’t doing well under Obama and that is the Republicans fault?
Enoki over 10 years ago
That was last week. This week he is negotiating with terrorists. Next week he’ll be on vacation and the week after he’ll doing some more great stuff like savng the universe and making more free government handouts to the oppressed and undeserving!
Vermont Premium Member over 10 years ago
Are the wingnuts missing the point of this cartoon? Or just changing the subject because they have nothing to say about the GOP threatening the US economy with another budget hostage crisis? The Teabaggers are the most destructive group to come along in years. They have the potential to bring the economy back to the Bush Depression. One day even the Republican voters will get it and remove these clowns from office, even if it means having to vote for a Democrat.
chazandru over 10 years ago
Having already addressed the theme of this cartoon elsewhere, I’d like to make this statement.The problem is not the tea party, or liberals, or conservatives, or Republicans, or Democrats. It is the EXTREMISTS of those groups that is the problem.Our nation is a giant carpet of diverse colors and patterns and for the most part, the center of that carpet is strong, compassionate, thoughtful, and loyal to the ideals and principles of our Constitution. But on the fringes, there are too loud, too mean, and too self interested extremists setting fires to the carpet and each is blaming other groups for the damage being done.Name calling is one symptom. Telling lies as if they were truths is another. Using tactics where the ends justify any means used is the worse.It is up to those who stand together in the middle, regardless of whether we agree on every issue or not, to find the kind of compromise and civil, respectful conversations that the extremists hate. We need to be as loud in our desire to find solutions as they are in their desire to cause havoc.There will always be issues on which we cannot agree, but does that demand we not move forward on those issues where compromise and making our nation stronger can be found?Edmund Burke said, “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”You who, like myself, want movement on the issues on which we agree, MUST raise your voices if the voices of the extremists are to be overwhelmed. Like the good Americans who stand between the Westboro Baptist Church extremists when they scream their vulgarities at the families of fallen soldiers, we must raise our voices in one song and one belief that we are a people United, and our nation is one for which we must act and speak.Respectfully,C.
klr562 over 10 years ago
and the dems get a walk again even though the will never go for what the House sends them
pam Miner over 10 years ago
Yes, ever since the 2008 election this kind of nonsense has been going on.Why can’t the GOP just PASS the bill like they have done for 100 years. It was Never Like This until they felt threatened by a black man in office.
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
Interesting note (at least to me): Respectful Troll made some very valuable and important points, without name-calling, without pushing buttons, without wholesale assumptive categorization. I often see posters here ask for his opinion, and rightly so. He is a voice of respectful sanity, and his message that we have to work together, rather than to fight each other, is one that I believe is the only way to advance our society.Regrettably, below his post, I count at least ten posts from others which are primarily name-calling, accusation about “the other side”, and gross generalization.No matter what we say, and who we say we are, our actions are what counts. Based on this, I have great sadness and pessimism for America’s future.Will a general elevation of level of discourse on GoComics make a difference in the future? Probably not, but “every journey belongs with a single step”.Placing blame is often fruitless. Working to remedy what needs remedy will sort things out. I challenge the posters here: do you want to be part of the problem, or part of the solution?
chazandru over 10 years ago
David, you are pigeonholing a very large group of people who are overrepresented, as are liberal groups, by a much smaller and much louder minority.I KNOW people who, disappointed with what they see as a lack of momentum in the Libertarian party, have put support to the tea party. But they are much more Libertarian moderates than “tea party” extremists. While I understand your frustration, a frustration mirrored at the other end of the spectrum by many conservatives, you do great harm to your many insightful and compassionate postings with your harsh words. You cannot bring people to the table for a conversation if you are going to pigeonhole and stereotype them with words that, if used against you, would cause hurt and anger.Understand, please… the only thing that keeps me from losing my own credibility is that word “submit” under each comment.and the words of one with one who used to post under the name Howgozit who asked me, appropriately, “What have I done to deserve something as simple and basic as respect?”Those words have humbled me to this day. No matter how much I disagree with my neighbors, I hope to be like the person who said, ""I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"If I cannot defend my positions with reason and civility, then I will seek to agree to disagree and move on.You’ve a good heart, David, and you can be a great messenger. It took me over 50 years to find my voice, and A LOT of help.Respectfully,C.The Wolf In Your Midst - I want to buy you a beer or other beverage of your choice so I can toast your wisdom, and your tone. Now I’m going to go rub my dog’s belly and think of happy wolves. :>Thanks, Wolfie.Sincerely,C.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
house is about to pass a bill to fully fund everything but obamacare / the questions are will senate pass it or vote to shut down the gov? //will bho sign it or veto to shut down the gov?
chazandru over 10 years ago
Thank you for an excellent post, David. it will not surprise the more conservative among us that I have a great deal of agreement with what you, and Uncle Joe have said in your replies to me. But more than anything, your message, whether folks agree, partially agree, or disagree, is – except perhaps for the angry old men reference, readable. Keep the message, David. Defend it with links, and facts, especially if you can use news sources trusted by those who you are trying to reach. And whenever you can, tell the people to whom you write in GC, or speak to at the grocery store, to write their congressmen, vote, and remember every person you’ll pass on the street today is your neighbor.Thank you for you excellent comment with which I have nearly no reasonable argument.With sincerity and much appreciation,C.*@ Uncle Joe – * I almost totally agree with you, Uncle Joe. I would prefer conservative extremists to tea party Republicans, (do Independent extremists exist?) and of the names you mention, I will agree with all but one, and that one I think wouldn’t mind seeing bad things happen if it proved his point. It is not PAJ. However, there are some who, like some of the liberal anarchists of the 60s have no problem seeing our nation slip drastically. The hate and vitriol in their comments convince me that if their neighbor was of the opposite party and on fire, they wouldn’t even pee on them to put the fire out. No effort to find common ground, no desire to seek compromise, an attitude of my way is the only way and ends justify means. And there are some liberals who convey this level of hate and meanness so please don’t think I’m blaming anyone side.I wish I felt more optimistic, but the growth of hate groups, and the “Timothy McVeigh”/Eric Rudolph" attitudes out there are growing. I fear for my nation, and when I read comments in Yahoo, GC, and other places… I find myself fearing some of those who are my neighbors and countrymen.With great sadness,C.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
you are correct most people will blame the tea party for a shut down cause by the senate because msm will lie, lie, lie ,lie
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
RT: while the extremist “right” we see here are repetitive in their appearances, and pound hate, while putting blame on their “opposite number” (falsely) it is the propaganda theory of Goebbels in practice daily by the extreme right IN THE MEDIA! ANY “moderate” conservative is attacked nearly as viscously as their hated “left”. Any moderate, or even pretty conservative “liberal” is of course branded as “socialist” or “Communist”.
Applying logic and reason to the extremist, is of course a lost cause. While there IS a very small minority of actual “extremist” “Liberals” as well, like PETA for one misappropriated representative, their number is minute compared to those on the “right”.
The maniacal NATIONALISM of the current extreme right hasn’t a clue what this nation actually was founded upon. They DO have the exact same lack of analytical skills as those backing “that guy” in Europe in the ’20’s and 30’s that led to the horror from ’39 to ’45. NOT recognizing that fanaticism, IS our greatest danger, especially as these folks claim they are merely “moderates out to restore our values”.
The “gun issue” remains a case in point. What IS wrong with “well-regulated”, as DEFINED by the Constitution as NECESSARY in the Second Amendment? What IS the mythical basis for stating that the First Amendment only applies to CHRISTIAN “values”?? MIght I point out the two issues are NOT discordant, as using “faith” as the MAJOR REASON for our war on “terror” – read ISLAM, leads to the fear demanding access for all to guns, and continued attacks abroad as well, that only furthers the “fear” that sustains that “war”. It is a cycle of fear, driven by both nationalism and theocracy, hmmm, just like what’s driving those “natives” who oppose our intrusion in THEIR nations in the Middle East!!
Logic? Compassion? Reasoned analysis? Understanding and adjustment of attitudes, personal and public? Americans in the majority today, can’t be bothered. THAT is the saddest and most frustrating part of our “problems”.
BTW, when it comes to both long lines at the grocery store, or stupidity backed by rigidity, I have the patience of a chipmunk on amphetamines. So if my “responses” to ignorance occasionally “bite”, perhaps it is but a response to the constant taunting (of ANYONE with opposing views) of those who would stick their arms in the lions cage, “just to see what happens”.
dicesare over 10 years ago
Those despicable nerds who call themselves “Repubs” haven’t got the moral sense to see that what they are doing is simply EVIL. Destructive is an accurate term to describe these people; they can’t imagine for a moment the lives they are destroying, and for what? They achieve NOTHING.
lisak157 Premium Member over 10 years ago
That’s right, give the democrats everything they want and it will all be okay….right? snort Yeah riiiiigggggtt. Anyone (including the idiot toonist who wrote this) who thinks that way should be locked up in the loony bin. Of course, lets be fair……everyone on the far right needs to go there too :-)
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
sadly bho would rather shut the gov down rather than his obamacare program being delayed [except for his buddies]
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago
Not sure where you get the $5000 penalty from, but that’s not what I see on this very conservative leaning website:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/17/purchase-health-insurance-or-pay-the-penalty-4-questions-to-ask-yourself/_Adults who do not carry health insurance for at least nine months in 2014 will pay a penalty (or tax, according to a Supreme Court ruling) of $95 per adult and $47.50 per child up to $285 per family, or 1% of income, whichever is greater. _The number rises through 2016, but even at the max, it’s $695 for an individual and $2085 for a family of 3 or more. Insurance for a healthy, young-ish person is about $1800 a year.