carny:
I’m a Navy retiree and currently under the care of a military hospital, the 2nd of 2 that facilitated my care, saved my life and then set about saving my leg. I
could not have had better care anywhere. At one point I was “farmed out” to a civilian hospital for a small procedure that Navy Hosp. was not equipped to do and I was exceedingly glad to get out of there and back to Navy. Navy ultimately transferred me to Army Hosp. for specialized surgery. The care I have received and am currently receiving has been nothing short of superlative. If the care I’m getting at Army Hosp. is indicative of the way they are treating our injured GIs then I’m not in the least worried about them.
So, Mr. (or Ms.?) carny, eat your ill-advised remark.
How about this actual conversation in the emergency room where I was having a large splinter of wood removed from my leg:
Dr.: Nurse, can you hand me some of those…pointy tweezer things?
Nurse: You mean forceps?
Dr.: Whatever the fancy name is.
twright64 that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. In MY opinion that I am entitled to also, the 2 military hospitals that I had was referring to did give me excellent care also. However, it was only after they finally took my illnesses seriously that I did receive such good care. That being said, I will not eat my NON-ill-advised remark.
My name is CARMY, and I am a Mrs. Thank you.
Carmy I think your comment was fine.
The real issue is not the hospitals themselves so much, as the particular doctors, etc. you get. Finding a good doctor is as tough as finding a good mechanic, baby sitter, etc. My hometown had fantastic medical care until government cutbacks decimated it.
The best doctor I ever had approached thigs like this: He would have you list everything you currently felt was wrong with you, occasionally popping in a question for clarification, but mostly just listened. He would then repeat everything back to make sure that he understood everything you said. He would then consider it for a bit, maybe even pause to pull out some reference material (the only Dr I’ve ever seen do that, I liked the idea that he did not rely on just what came to mind). He would then give you his diagnosis like this: From your symptoms, it is most likely that xyz is your problem, but there’s a chance it might be abcd, so we’re going to try this treatment first, if we don’t see improvement, then we’ll change to treatment #2, etc. All cards were on the table, there was nothing hidden, if he wasn’t sure, he would tell you and explain why he felt a certain treatment was the best to start with. I wish there were more out there like him.
it is even worse when you have a kid who is sick and has fliud in his ears and the docter wont do anything but tell you come back in a few months. sever million times. then 3 years down the road the decied to put tubes in after the kid could hardly hear and the parents have to start all over bc it set him back…..
DFrog Our family’s doctor is almost like that. So I’ll drive 2 hours, if need be, to see him, rather than find another doctor. (We started going to him while he was still a resident, and that was over 20 years ago.)
twright64 says: So, Mr. (or Ms.?) carny, eat your ill-advised remark.
That was totally unecessary. You gave a description of your experience, which was great, and you are very lucky. I know this lady, and her experience was less than stellar until she said,’Hold on a minute here…’. Then things improved dramatically.
RRAMom I hear you. We used to drive 200 miles to our chiropractor until he retired for the same reason. He was the most effective one we ever had, he always took xrays of new patients before he started, and his philosophy was that if he couldn’t fix your issue within 2-3 visits, it wasn’t something chiropractics should be messing with and would refer you to the proper ortho specialist.
Dfrog I really respect doctors who will refer you to a specialist when they realize that they aren’t the best one to treat you. I think too many times their egos won’t let them admit that. Our family doctor is so great that when my hubby was in the hospital overnight for observation (chest pains) one of the staff came in and told him “You have a really great doctor!” (And this happened at a regional medical center, so there were plenty of other doctors to choose from.)
The healthcare system in Australia is pretty much dead. I had a bike accident and lost three of my teeth, and the nurses put me in he waiting room for 6 hours before they could find someone to look at me. When the maxillofacial specialist finally had time to look at me he said if the nurses hadn’t waited so long my teeth could have been replaced.
Another time my friend fell out of a bunk bead and cracked her skull. The receptionist said to go home and come back tomorrow if something develops. Good thing a brain surgeon happened to be walking past right then. He said that if they didn’t operate there and then she would die.
btw @ doctortoon, I know you weren’t directing that comment at me, but who are you to say my opinion -that I am allowed to tell people their opinion is wrong- is wrong?
Ravensinger we travel in packs, and when one of our membors need us we are there for them. it is a kind of true friendship. we suport eachouther and always have there backs. you may not like it and a lot of others either, but we dont give a d a r n about it.
As a medical professional I have these things to say:
OK, some of us probably suck, and some of us are awesome. Most of us are just trying to do a good job and not get sued.
DigitalFrog, your splinter removal technician sounded like a medical student doing his first clinical clerkship.
Anatomically, there is no green squiggly thing in the human body, so the patient will undoubtedly feel better without whatever that is in there.
howlindawgs I have some friends who are in the medical profession, and it does help to see things from their point of view. Most of the doctors I have been to were great, but I’ve had a few who weren’t. And I made sure to tell my family doc (who referred me) if there were any problems with the specialist. The ones that were the worst were impatient. I can deal with people still learning, but if a doctor won’t take the time needed, that is inexcusable in my opinion. (Like not waiting until I’m completely numb before operating!!)
margueritem about 15 years ago
Squiggly green things are pretty useless in general…
The Duke 1 about 15 years ago
And THAT’S why they call it PRACTICING medicine!
JonD17 about 15 years ago
JFri, I always wondered about that phrase. Guess that’s why hospitals scare me so much.
setjeff15081947 about 15 years ago
The Greenville, S.C. Hospital System. Believe I’m exaggerating? I dare you to check-in!
LibrarianInTraining about 15 years ago
setjeff, I’ll see your S.C. hospital system and raise you the South Florida hospital system.
carmy about 15 years ago
setjeff and Librarian,* I see your S.C. Hosp and So FL Hosp and raise you both with Military Hospital (any state).
twright64 about 15 years ago
carny: I’m a Navy retiree and currently under the care of a military hospital, the 2nd of 2 that facilitated my care, saved my life and then set about saving my leg. I could not have had better care anywhere. At one point I was “farmed out” to a civilian hospital for a small procedure that Navy Hosp. was not equipped to do and I was exceedingly glad to get out of there and back to Navy. Navy ultimately transferred me to Army Hosp. for specialized surgery. The care I have received and am currently receiving has been nothing short of superlative. If the care I’m getting at Army Hosp. is indicative of the way they are treating our injured GIs then I’m not in the least worried about them. So, Mr. (or Ms.?) carny, eat your ill-advised remark.
Digital Frog about 15 years ago
How about this actual conversation in the emergency room where I was having a large splinter of wood removed from my leg: Dr.: Nurse, can you hand me some of those…pointy tweezer things? Nurse: You mean forceps? Dr.: Whatever the fancy name is.
bald about 15 years ago
and for this we pay thousands of dollars a year for medical insurance!!
carmy about 15 years ago
twright64 that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. In MY opinion that I am entitled to also, the 2 military hospitals that I had was referring to did give me excellent care also. However, it was only after they finally took my illnesses seriously that I did receive such good care. That being said, I will not eat my NON-ill-advised remark. My name is CARMY, and I am a Mrs. Thank you.
Dry and Dusty Premium Member about 15 years ago
carmy you go girl!!!
Nighthawks Premium Member about 15 years ago
now, you kids…. play nice!
Digital Frog about 15 years ago
Carmy I think your comment was fine. The real issue is not the hospitals themselves so much, as the particular doctors, etc. you get. Finding a good doctor is as tough as finding a good mechanic, baby sitter, etc. My hometown had fantastic medical care until government cutbacks decimated it. The best doctor I ever had approached thigs like this: He would have you list everything you currently felt was wrong with you, occasionally popping in a question for clarification, but mostly just listened. He would then repeat everything back to make sure that he understood everything you said. He would then consider it for a bit, maybe even pause to pull out some reference material (the only Dr I’ve ever seen do that, I liked the idea that he did not rely on just what came to mind). He would then give you his diagnosis like this: From your symptoms, it is most likely that xyz is your problem, but there’s a chance it might be abcd, so we’re going to try this treatment first, if we don’t see improvement, then we’ll change to treatment #2, etc. All cards were on the table, there was nothing hidden, if he wasn’t sure, he would tell you and explain why he felt a certain treatment was the best to start with. I wish there were more out there like him.
tabbylynn about 15 years ago
it is even worse when you have a kid who is sick and has fliud in his ears and the docter wont do anything but tell you come back in a few months. sever million times. then 3 years down the road the decied to put tubes in after the kid could hardly hear and the parents have to start all over bc it set him back…..
Carmy thats my girl!! you tell him girl. P&L
tabbylynn about 15 years ago
D.F. i wish there were more doctors out there like that.
Smiley Rmom about 15 years ago
DFrog Our family’s doctor is almost like that. So I’ll drive 2 hours, if need be, to see him, rather than find another doctor. (We started going to him while he was still a resident, and that was over 20 years ago.)
margueritem about 15 years ago
twright64 says: So, Mr. (or Ms.?) carny, eat your ill-advised remark.
That was totally unecessary. You gave a description of your experience, which was great, and you are very lucky. I know this lady, and her experience was less than stellar until she said,’Hold on a minute here…’. Then things improved dramatically.
Digital Frog about 15 years ago
RRAMom I hear you. We used to drive 200 miles to our chiropractor until he retired for the same reason. He was the most effective one we ever had, he always took xrays of new patients before he started, and his philosophy was that if he couldn’t fix your issue within 2-3 visits, it wasn’t something chiropractics should be messing with and would refer you to the proper ortho specialist.
Smiley Rmom about 15 years ago
Dfrog I really respect doctors who will refer you to a specialist when they realize that they aren’t the best one to treat you. I think too many times their egos won’t let them admit that. Our family doctor is so great that when my hubby was in the hospital overnight for observation (chest pains) one of the staff came in and told him “You have a really great doctor!” (And this happened at a regional medical center, so there were plenty of other doctors to choose from.)
dcguys about 15 years ago
Well said, Carmy.
tabbylynn about 15 years ago
Carmy can you feel the love we have for you. our Tribe truly does stick together. I love it.
hypershock about 15 years ago
The healthcare system in Australia is pretty much dead. I had a bike accident and lost three of my teeth, and the nurses put me in he waiting room for 6 hours before they could find someone to look at me. When the maxillofacial specialist finally had time to look at me he said if the nurses hadn’t waited so long my teeth could have been replaced. Another time my friend fell out of a bunk bead and cracked her skull. The receptionist said to go home and come back tomorrow if something develops. Good thing a brain surgeon happened to be walking past right then. He said that if they didn’t operate there and then she would die.
btw @ doctortoon, I know you weren’t directing that comment at me, but who are you to say my opinion -that I am allowed to tell people their opinion is wrong- is wrong?
Ravensinger about 15 years ago
Another Tribal watering hole.
tabbylynn about 15 years ago
Ravensinger we travel in packs, and when one of our membors need us we are there for them. it is a kind of true friendship. we suport eachouther and always have there backs. you may not like it and a lot of others either, but we dont give a d a r n about it.
howlindawgs about 15 years ago
As a medical professional I have these things to say: OK, some of us probably suck, and some of us are awesome. Most of us are just trying to do a good job and not get sued. DigitalFrog, your splinter removal technician sounded like a medical student doing his first clinical clerkship. Anatomically, there is no green squiggly thing in the human body, so the patient will undoubtedly feel better without whatever that is in there.
tabbylynn about 15 years ago
sorry Rav i forgot that you were a “Tribe membor” so that was not directed to you then. but to any one else.
Smiley Rmom about 15 years ago
howlindawgs I have some friends who are in the medical profession, and it does help to see things from their point of view. Most of the doctors I have been to were great, but I’ve had a few who weren’t. And I made sure to tell my family doc (who referred me) if there were any problems with the specialist. The ones that were the worst were impatient. I can deal with people still learning, but if a doctor won’t take the time needed, that is inexcusable in my opinion. (Like not waiting until I’m completely numb before operating!!)