“The Verizon guy. Thanks Verizon guy for setting up a network for O to spy on us all.”No, he set it up for W. O merely took over where W left off. Nothing has changed. Why is it a scandal now, and not when it was originally authorized?
Ms. Ima, until you can admit the role that Bush, et.al took in using the system of acquiring Metadata (mostly simple tracking of numbers and call directions, locations, only looking at actual communications when a warrant request is approved by a court) there is no point in trying to blame Obama.
Had Obama said to us, "I’m tossing the NSA system of tracking phone, email traffic and such to find potential terrorists, you and the other Baggers would have exploded in rage and called him a sympathizer with the terrorists. The GOP almost to a person supported the Patriot act and the results about which you are bleating today—just a bit hypocritical, I’d say.
Oh, yeah, I forgot. Since the IRS Service Manager, a self identified conservative Republican admitted that he was responsible for the decision to look specifically at groups with “tea party” and “patriot” in their names, and we now know that Obama and the administration had nothing to do with it—when do you and Ramirez apologize to Obama and Co.?
edclectic almost 11 years ago
This is nothing new…
Jason Allen almost 11 years ago
“The Verizon guy. Thanks Verizon guy for setting up a network for O to spy on us all.”No, he set it up for W. O merely took over where W left off. Nothing has changed. Why is it a scandal now, and not when it was originally authorized?
edclectic almost 11 years ago
Very good question.
pirate227 almost 11 years ago
Phone records not wire taps, oh yeah, facts don’t matter to Ramirez.
1BiGl3dFo0tS Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Ms. Ima, until you can admit the role that Bush, et.al took in using the system of acquiring Metadata (mostly simple tracking of numbers and call directions, locations, only looking at actual communications when a warrant request is approved by a court) there is no point in trying to blame Obama.
Had Obama said to us, "I’m tossing the NSA system of tracking phone, email traffic and such to find potential terrorists, you and the other Baggers would have exploded in rage and called him a sympathizer with the terrorists. The GOP almost to a person supported the Patriot act and the results about which you are bleating today—just a bit hypocritical, I’d say.
1BiGl3dFo0tS Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Oh, yeah, I forgot. Since the IRS Service Manager, a self identified conservative Republican admitted that he was responsible for the decision to look specifically at groups with “tea party” and “patriot” in their names, and we now know that Obama and the administration had nothing to do with it—when do you and Ramirez apologize to Obama and Co.?
Oh, I know: When hell freezes over.