The fiscal cliff was a GOP construction, since they cannot actually govern unless forced to. The Romney/Ryan plan never actually balanced the budget, since you can’t do that at current tax rates — which is why none of their proposals contain any details or numbers. The GOP needs to actually grow a pair and realize that America really shouldn’t be a failed state. Now they’re vowing to default on our debt if they can’t destroy Medicare. It’s no way to govern a country.
Exactly. Obama even had MSNBC hosts over to the White House to plan the spin on it. Republicans have been willing to concede some increase in revenue through elimination of loop holes. The President has given zero ground. I would be willing to believe his promise of “cuts in the future” if he hadn’t broken just about every other promise he has made in the last 4 1/2 years. So it will be his fault, but the media will parrot whatever the white house gives them to say and 51% of Americans will believe what they are told. The sad thing is, if done right, closing tax loopholes will raise MORE revenue then raising the income tax rates since most high wealth earners get their money through capital gains which won’t be touched by the lapsing Bush tax cuts. But Obama wants a failure he can blame on Republicans instead of a (limited) success that can be shared by both parties.
There is no way the Republicans can get out of this mess without being blamed for whatever ills the US and the World, so they might as well do the right thing – propose 0 new taxes and serious spending cuts, together with entitlement reform. And if 0bama doesn’t take it, much of America will discover that the heretofore ‘tax-cuts for the rich’ actually benefited every tax-payer – substantially..Of course the Democrats and its spokespeople in the media will label this as a Republican instigated middle income tax increase . . . .Incidentally, if the Democrats are so in love with Clinton-era taxes, why don’t we also revert to Clinton-era spending . . .???
What do you teach, Elementary school level?Anyone else would have realized I was talking about the Elephant, and not the apple. (For an example, go read fritzkringle’s post. He knew what I meant, and got me laughing as well.)
William Bednar Premium Member over 11 years ago
Everyone knows elephants can’t eat apples!
ARodney over 11 years ago
The fiscal cliff was a GOP construction, since they cannot actually govern unless forced to. The Romney/Ryan plan never actually balanced the budget, since you can’t do that at current tax rates — which is why none of their proposals contain any details or numbers. The GOP needs to actually grow a pair and realize that America really shouldn’t be a failed state. Now they’re vowing to default on our debt if they can’t destroy Medicare. It’s no way to govern a country.
faramir214 over 11 years ago
Exactly. Obama even had MSNBC hosts over to the White House to plan the spin on it. Republicans have been willing to concede some increase in revenue through elimination of loop holes. The President has given zero ground. I would be willing to believe his promise of “cuts in the future” if he hadn’t broken just about every other promise he has made in the last 4 1/2 years. So it will be his fault, but the media will parrot whatever the white house gives them to say and 51% of Americans will believe what they are told. The sad thing is, if done right, closing tax loopholes will raise MORE revenue then raising the income tax rates since most high wealth earners get their money through capital gains which won’t be touched by the lapsing Bush tax cuts. But Obama wants a failure he can blame on Republicans instead of a (limited) success that can be shared by both parties.
petergrt over 11 years ago
There is no way the Republicans can get out of this mess without being blamed for whatever ills the US and the World, so they might as well do the right thing – propose 0 new taxes and serious spending cuts, together with entitlement reform. And if 0bama doesn’t take it, much of America will discover that the heretofore ‘tax-cuts for the rich’ actually benefited every tax-payer – substantially..Of course the Democrats and its spokespeople in the media will label this as a Republican instigated middle income tax increase . . . .Incidentally, if the Democrats are so in love with Clinton-era taxes, why don’t we also revert to Clinton-era spending . . .???
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
The apple represented the tree of knowledge, something the GOP and Ramirez have rejected totally, especially regarding simple economic facts.
zekedog55 over 11 years ago
There you have it (in a NUT shell)!
The Republican party waited so long, they became irrelevant.
“wait until this, wait until that”…I’m CERTAIN the sky will fall sooner or later…
Hey hold on here—-that sorta sounds like a movie…SKYFALL!!! I knew it! We really are doomed…
Guess I’ll just wait around some more…
fritzoid Premium Member over 11 years ago
“What fun; I’ve always wanted to ride an apple, myself.”
That’s nothing. I once shot an elephant eating an apple in my pajamas.
Ketira over 11 years ago
What do you teach, Elementary school level?Anyone else would have realized I was talking about the Elephant, and not the apple. (For an example, go read fritzkringle’s post. He knew what I meant, and got me laughing as well.)