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Tom Toles

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  1. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    From where I sit we don’t NEED a Climate policy; and that is regardless of whether or not the earth is actually warming.
    Any government policy intent on reducing greenhouse gasses will lower the standard of living for EVERYONE in the United States and have very little actual benefit because those gasses will continue to be produced wholesale everywhere else in the world.

    If the government does nothing AND the Scientists’ worst predictions come true – The seas will rise and storms will become more intense. A better approach to those problems are: 1) Adapt to a higher sea level i.e. Dikes, and other water control measures, 2) Build more durable housing.
    Both of these measures can be done WITHOUT forcing everyone in the United States to reduce their standard of living in a Quixotesque attempt.

    China, Mexico, Brazil, Russia, are all burning Fossil Fuels at accelerated rates and stealing the jobs from this country where we have made factory operation too difficult with excessive regulations and increased costs on Energy.

  2. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, over 2 years ago

    @Mephistopheles

    There are positive things government can do, too, you know.
    Fund research into clean energy, as we used to (and got the solar energy industry started before Reagan cut it and the Germans and Japanese bought our tech). If it’s good, the Chinese will buy from US. Also: fusion.
    Help people install solar panels on their homes, which decreases energy load and dependence on foreign fuels
    Ditto for better insulation and homes.
    Fund research into carbon scrubbing tech, which China is indeed working on themselves – which, if successful, would have the double benefit of allowing us to use coal to stretch our fossil fuel supplies until we get something better.
    Support small, entrepreneurial businesses (instead of just big ones) just starting out.
    NONE of those things lower our standard of living. NONE of those things would send jobs overseas and would build up our economy.
    Right now, we are one of the only countries in the world refusing to look at these problems, because we have the only country with a major party refusing to even accept that AGW is happening. Germany’s shutting down its nuclear reactors! What could we be doing?

  3. Stipple

    Stipple said, over 2 years ago

    “secret treaties”

    What? Do they include Elvis and the aliens?
    Conspiracies to end the world as we know it, great contribution.
    Next time at least try and make it amusing, straight up dumb does not entertain very well.

  4. nordwonder

    nordwonder said, over 2 years ago

    @Mephistopheles

    Yeah, if one guys smoking up the room, we should all smoke. Onle 30 million people were displaced by climate change last year: http://bit.ly/1coMFVB. No need for government intervention when these displacements start to cause civil disruption.

  5. Stipple

    Stipple said, over 2 years ago

    “look up
    trans-Pacific Partnership…”

    If I can look it up it is not a “secret treaty”, that is the point I was making.

    Read what I say….and answer something else entirely.
    This makes communication more difficult.

  6. eugene57

    eugene57 said, over 2 years ago

    “Last I checked, the sky isn’t falling.”
    So no snow, rain, hail, fog, etc. where you are today?

  7. morrrva

    morrrva said, over 2 years ago

    @Mephistopheles

    A two-meter sea level rise completely submerges New Orleans and Miami. It causes constant flooding in New York, Norfolk, VA, and scores of other coastal cities. Estimates have gone as high as $50B a year for the U.S. alone to mitigate such flooding, and over $1T of economic downturn. And most climatologists admit their estimates may be low, and a 2M rise estimate may be far too small. Still think that climate change mitigation is the only option that potentially reduces standards of living? Climate change deniers always seem to gloss over the real dollar and cent costs of doing nothing.

  8. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @Mephistopheles

    You are thinking from a faulty idea that petrochemicals are the only means of generating power and producing wealth. WRONG. In 50 years it will be so obvious that only the most die hard will ignore the climate changing for no other reason than because of human effort to do so, accidentally.

  9. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Yes that impact study. I wonder how many of them were corrupted by the oil money?
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    Minimal impact up until it leaks and they leak and it is much much harder to clean up that toxic compound sluicing around in the pipeline. Tar sands are the dregs of oil and coal. Dregs. Don’t you wonder why they are resorting to that now if there is still plentiful sweet crude around/ Because there isn’t. Compared to the sun, wind and tides which for all intents and purposes infinite coal and oil are not.

  10. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Partisan blinders are in full force for you and your pals. Miss the big picture. The one where we are all part of it. None of us but the very rich have a chance of riding it out in style and luxury.

  11. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @Stipple

    There is nothing secret about those who will trash the Earth and make a profit off of it. The rest of us are stuck unless we can get off the grid and generate our own energy and live more simply and use the least amount of energy to do it.
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    Temps have gone up 2.6 degrees F. Or 1 degree C. That is a general figure hot areas are even hotter than before.

  12. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Hint, we know that and one of the many reasons why it must die. Environment and worker safety should be first not add ons.

  13. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    It’s no big deal if the sea levels DO rise. Just buy a couple of more houses further up the bank.
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    You sound like one of those super rich psychopaths. Care about nothing but yourself and maybe your family. Remember for every foot vertical, it can go in as far as 100’ inland.

  14. curtisls87

    curtisls87 said, over 2 years ago

    @morrrva

    Um, no, even the IPCC doesn’t believe in a 2M rise, let alone “most climatologists admit their estimates may be low.” Please don’t exaggerate, as that gives others the chance to seize on that, and discount any argument you make.
    Current estimates by the IPCC show a rise of between .2 to .5 meters by 2100. http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/faq-5-1.html

  15. Kip W

    Kip W said, over 2 years ago

    @Night-Gaunt49

    Neocon Man is our local distributor for Poe’s Law.

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