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  1. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, 6 months ago

    I actually hope they DON’T delay Obama(Non)Care and enforce that $95 fine AND an additional $47 per child.
    Just wait until all the handout folks that voted for Barry, go to H&R Block for their tax refund and are told up to $285 will be taken away because of the Obamacare TAX!!!
    Oh and in 2 years $695 PER PERSON WILL BE TAKEN FROM THEIR REFUND!!
    There goes that annual vacation or the once a year chance to buy something nice for the family at WalMart!
    People are gonna be PISSED at the Dimocrats!

  2. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, 6 months ago

    Oh and then there’s the 16 Million people having their health insurance cancelled because of Obamacare! What happened to the “promise” that “You can keep the insurance you already have………………..”?
    Health plans are sending hundreds of thousands of cancellation letters to people who buy their own coverage, frustrating some consumers who want to keep what they have and forcing others to buy more costly policies.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/21/health-care-cancelled-obamacare_n_4138129.html

  3. Gary Kleppe

    Gary Kleppe said, 6 months ago

    @ConserveGov

    So, chuckles, what IS the GOP alternative?

    Tell us, please. Enquiring minds would like to know.

  4. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, 6 months ago

    A friend of mine is a doctor, a specialist, who tells me that he has just cut his own family’s health insurance costs in half. He calls the ACA “a lifesaver.”

    The website was not ready, it is true. But in the states that embraced the new law, and set up their own exchanges (as the law intended) are doing pretty well, and some are doing excellently. By obstructing the law, and failing to do their part in creating marketplaces where their citizens can shop for health coverage, it is the GOP-dominated state governments (who presumably always prefer state-run over Federal) who have forced their citizens to use the (inadequate) Federal system.

    Well, the restaurant has opened: the wait staff aren’t trained, the cash register isn’t working properly, and the menus aren’t back from the printer. That does not mean that the food is bad, or the prices are too high. Or that the restaurant will fail.

    There is so much fury from the right over the ACA, and yet few of their criticisms of it are logical or even coherent. The web site was not ready, and the new law will not accomplish as much good as was hoped or hyped. It is no panacea, and is not the answer to all the problems we have in our healthcare system. No one has ever complained about being required to carry auto insurance. No one wants people being left to die at emergency-room doors because they are broke and have no credit. Certainly no-one likes deadbeats who won’t pay for what they get. A great many products must meet minimum quality standards, including expensive and for most people absolutely necessary products like cars. Some complain that they are made to pay for coverage they don’t want (though no one requires them to use it). This is like complaining that they have to pay for seatbelts in the back seat of their car when they intend to use that seat for hauling, and no one is ever going to sit back there.

    The exchanges are market places. Government have been setting up and overseeing market places since governments were created. The exchanges are places where companies compete for business. The whole system is based on the market. That is supposed to be what conservatives are all about.

    It all just makes me tired.

  5. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, 6 months ago

    @ConserveGov

    A very reasonable criticism of the ACA with real numbers and links.


    Fortunately for the ACA, most of the critics are like Tigger and Hannity, attacking with a complete lack of facts, a lack easily checked.

  6. Kris Jackson

    Kris Jackson said, 6 months ago

    So ConserveGov, you want to go with no health insurance and no penalty. Then when you suddenly need medical care you expect to get it at the emergency room and not pay, right? You sure you’re a conservative? Or will you pay up front for say a hundred grand worth of cancer treatment? Or should a person with no health insurance get turned away and die of a broken leg? And yes, without treatment a broken leg will kill you. Sorry, we need Obamacare.

  7. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, 6 months ago

    @Kris Jackson

    I agree we need a change. Our current system has been shown to fail. Obamacare is a bandage with some good ideas and one big bad idea, which is to direct people to the same industry that caused the system to fail in the first place. Giving the wolf keys to the henhouse is not the answer. Give people props for getting SOMETHING done, after every president from Mr. Nixon forward (except for Mr. Reagan and GWB) has tried to accomplish. Anything this comprehensive is unlikely to be perfect upon rollout. There is certainly room for improvement.

    The fact that no one who is telling us how bad Obamacare is has an alternative idea is telling. Returning to a failed system is not acceptable, and until the Republicans learn that simple lesson, we will be stuck in yet another bit of quicksand, complete with blaming, finger-pointing, and posturing….none of which will get us out of the quicksand.

  8. SuperMax52

    SuperMax52 said, 6 months ago

    Military Death Panel allowed my sister-in-law to die. Rather than run a test 9expense) they wrote her off until she started to wake up, by then it was too late.

  9. Gary Kleppe

    Gary Kleppe said, 6 months ago

    @Debt Free

    I have an alternative. Health care as a public service. Expand Medicare to cover 100% of all medically necessary services for everyone who lives in the USA regardless of age, and pay for it by taxing the wealthy.

    Doing nothing leaves high and dry those with “pre-existing conditions” and anyone else who’s a high risk. But thanks for admitting that the Republicans have no ideas beyond that.

  10. AlexanderTheGoodEnough

    AlexanderTheGoodEnough said, 6 months ago

    @Doughfoot

    Just so.

    As for the irrational and inchoate rabble that opposes Obamacare, it’s quite clear that for those people Obamacare is in fact a proxie for Obama himself. The fact that the president is a Democrat is bad enough, but the very idea of having to accept help or take orders from someone with Kenyan ancestry is beyond unimaginable and unacceptable to those folks.

  11. martens misses all her friends

    martens misses all her friends GoComics PRO Member said, 6 months ago

    @Doughfoot

    An excellent post, Doughfoot. And I agree whole-heartedly, especially about how tired the ranting makes me too.

  12. The Wolf In Your Midst

    The Wolf In Your Midst GoComics PRO Member said, 6 months ago

    @ConserveGov

    And if things go that badly, and the Republicans play their cards right, they could very well retake the Presidency! All they have to do is nominate an actual human being sane people would want to vote for, instead of doing something foolish like turning their primary into a carnival of maniacs and nominating an egotistical sociopath who dismisses half the nation as not worth his time, simply because he was the least insane of the bunch.
    .
    …well, good luck with that. (I think you’ll need it.)

  13. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, 6 months ago

    @Debt Free

    You might find out what the law is before you criticize. There will be a surcharge on your income tax bill if you are not covered by health insurance. This is to pay for your care, and the care of others like you, when you or they, as uninsured persons, require care you or they can’t pay for. In the present state of our health care system, going without insurance is gambling with other people’s money, it is being a deadbeat. The ACA promotes personal responsibility, and the free market, providing a market place for people to buy insurance with assurance as to its quality, so they know they won’t lose that coverage if they get sick, or are discovered to have been sick in the past. It also provides help for those for whom health insurance is beyond their means: it does not provide them with coverage, but it does subsidize their purchase of it.

    If you hate the ACA so much, then have the courage of your convictions, refuse to have health insurance, and pay the extra tax (which won’t cost you as much as health insurance, most likely).

    There is NO provision in the law that anyone can be arrested for not having health insurance. You can refuse the pay the penalty, by sending the IRS only as much money as would you pay if there were no penalty. As far as the IRS is concerned, and the law is concerned, you would just be like anyone else who did not pay all his taxes. They might eventually possibly come after you money one day (for back taxes), but it is most unlikely that they would come after you. But why not pay the penalty? Would you like to see a balanced Federal budget, would you like to see the national debt reduced? Paying that tax penalty will certainly help in both cases, and you will be able to boast that you were not coerced by the liberals into buying yourself health insurance!

  14. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, 6 months ago

    @Debt Free

    Why shouldn’t I believe him? His family policy is going from $20,000 a year to just over $10,000. And he did call the ACA a “lifesaver”, and he is a doctor. This is not something I read somewhere, like this. This is from someone personally known to me.
    Merely one person’s experience of course, doesn’t prove a think other than some people at least are greatly benefiting from the new law.

    And the whole point of the law is that the government will NOT be getting anyone’s insurance premiums, and that the people HAVE to be served when they try to collect. Unlike before.
    <br< You really are attacking something you know nothing about.

  15. echoraven

    echoraven said, 6 months ago

    @Doughfoot

    Your post is odd. Supporters of the ACA themselves say that there will be winners and losers; i.e. some will pay more and some less. Those that have preexisting conditions or are poor (or within 4x the poverty rate) will pay less and everyone else more. So either your friend has a bunch of kids, is incompetent (to where he doesn’t make much money), is lying or your making this up.

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