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Tom Toles

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  1. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, over 3 years ago

    The center, unlike the left, actually thinks there SHOULD be a fence.
    I know this is news to Tommy Trolls and the other lefty media types.

  2. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 3 years ago


    Well, many of your ultra conservative friends on here have accused me of being a part of the evil “left”, but I am perfectly happy with a fence also. I really dislike it when people so label others as either left or right. There are indeed extremist on both sides of the p[political spectrum, but most Americans are at least somewhat in the middle!

  3. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 3 years ago

    On this one, they is plenty of xenophobia and anti-immigration sentiment on both left and right. Only a few libertarians, true libertarians, want open borders. Only a few people want complete amnesty for all U.S. residents. Almost everyone want more secure borders.

    The questions are about what those who are here illegally have to do or suffer to put themselves right with the laws, and what those who want to come here have to do to get and stay here legally.

    If you violate the traffic laws, such as speed limits, you are not barred forever from using the public roads, and don’t have your license revoked for life. Yet some anti-illegal-immigration folks make arguments that are just like someone saying “What part of illegal do you not understand? Any system of penalties that allows those who have violated the rules of the road to remain on the roads is just amnesty!! You passed the speed limit illegally, you have no right to use the roads!”

    The plan being put forward by Rubio et al. may be harsher than some would like, and easier than some would like, but it is a step in the right direction.

    And by the way, the net illegal immigration at present is essentially zero because of the depressed economy. And actual research has demonstrated that illegal immigrants on the whole contribute more in taxes than they consume in taxpayer resources. Of course there are rotten apples among them, but on the whole the country has benefited by these people being here, and most want nothing more than the opportunity to be good citizens.

  4. ARodney

    ARodney said, over 3 years ago

    The conservatives’ arguments against immigration reform would make more sense if (a) we didn’t desperately need these workers to do jobs that Americans aren’t doing, and (b) if were even possible to immigrate legally, which it isn’t for many of these workers.

  5. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    A big part of the problem is that Mexico won’t close it’s OWN southern border, and just pipes those Central American immigrants right on through.

  6. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    We need to make it easier for legal immigrants to qualify for citizenship. Meanwhile, we’ve spent millions on the virtual fence, and the coyotes have even built ramps to drive vehicles up and over (not always successfully). Build a ten foot wall, and someone will build an eleven foot ladder.

  7. Kylie2112

    Kylie2112 said, over 3 years ago


    This. I have friends with spouses from Canada, and even then it’s a pain in the ass to get full citizenship.

  8. zoidknight

    zoidknight said, over 3 years ago


    It is not xenophobia and anti-immigration, contrary to your sides delusions. It is simply insisting the obey the laws. They could enter the country legally if they would just follow proper cgabbels. And illegals contribute nothing but crime.

  9. zoidknight

    zoidknight said, over 3 years ago


    Wrong on both counts. We do not need these workers, and it is possible to enter legally.

  10. zoidknight

    zoidknight said, over 3 years ago



  11. neatslob

    neatslob said, over 3 years ago


    Instead of your analogy of drivers exceeding the speed limit, the immigration problems are more like people driving without a license. They ARE barred from using the roads until they can get a valid license.

  12. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 3 years ago


    Most illegal immigrants DID come to this country legally, but have overstayed visas or committed other infraction.

    And you got it backwards, insisting that immigrants obey the laws is not xenophobic or anti-immigration. And I don’t know what “side” you think I am on. I think everyone should obey the laws, unless it would be absolutely immoral to do so, and then you should be willing to accept the legal consequences of your disobedience.

    However, to declare that all 10,000,000 illegal immigrants in this country (most of whom are scrupulously honest in all things like paying taxes so as to avoid trouble) contribute nothing by crime is xenophobic and racist.

  13. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 3 years ago


    Actually they are no barred from using the roads, only from driving on them. They are permitted to be passengers.

    And if you wish to compare illegal immigrants to people driving without licenses, then the present law is equivalent to a law saying that if you are caught driving without a license you will be barred from getting a license for ten years.

  14. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 3 years ago


    Useless. Most illegal immigrants come in on airplanes or ships. Only one minority subset, poor central Americans, come over the TX-NM-AR-CA border. And they haven’t been coming lately anyway. Don’t know much about this stuff, do you?

  15. neatslob

    neatslob said, over 3 years ago


    No, it says go through the legal process of getting a license. If that takes 10 years then change that process. (And you might not be able to, depending on why you didn’t have a license in the first place.) Don’t just say, since you’re already driving without a license we’ll just let you keep on doing it.

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