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  1. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, over 3 years ago

    Sorry Barry Fans, but Santa has run out of goodies.
    Don’t worry tho, he’ll probably just put it on your kids and grandkids credit card again.

  2. saywhatwhat

    saywhatwhat said, over 3 years ago

    Yes, but the first three posters (Ima, 4my… and “Conserve…”) are not listening. They never will. They pretend “Government” does nothing for them, and so, are able to rant convincingly (to themselves) that they don’t owe the government anything.

  3. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 3 years ago

    Not sure what you mean by counterfeit. But taxes or not we are still spending more then we take in.

  4. ossiningaling

    ossiningaling said, over 3 years ago


    Interestingly, without the government, they wouldn’t have this forum to express their views.

  5. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago


    Well it is a matter of perspective, don’t you think?

    First, the government is there to “serve” the people. Not the other way around. Government is in place with the “permission” of the governed, they are “employees” of the people.

    So what do you “owe” your employee?

    Second, government is tasked " ……… to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity….".

    Remember, our government is suppose to be in place by “THE CONSENT OF THE PEOPLE”.

    They are tasked with certain jobs, such as but not limited to:

    To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

    To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

    To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

    To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

    To provide and maintain a Navy;

    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    So ANYTHING they do MUST be done with “the consent of the people”. That includes “levying taxes”. They serve at OUR pleasure we “OWE” them nothing. They build roads (actually it’s a local thing paid for by local funds and federal funds taken from local people, skimmed, and then given back) because the people wanted them and are willing to pay the tax to do it and agreed to pay the tax.

    Your view that the government is the one in charge is 180 degrees out of phase and is why we have such a problem with our politicians.

  6. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, over 3 years ago

    So you think that rich people paying less than poor people in taxes and profitable corporations paying less than anyone is a good idea? Hm. Explains a lot. Don’t believe in democracy, do you?

  7. ARodney

    ARodney said, over 3 years ago

    And the Republicans ran on cutting spending only. And they lost, because it’s mathematically impossible, and Americans may be dumb but they’re not THAT dumb.

  8. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    @motivemagus – Do you really believe that or are you just spouting what you have been told. Don’t confuse tax rate with tax amount.

    I hear this complaint regularly where some lib whines that guys like Warren buffet are only paying 15%. But he’s paying 15% on Millions of dollars of earnings.

    15% of $1 Million is $15000. Compare that 20% of $40000 which works out to be $8000.

    Don’t be fooled into thinking that the rich aren’t paying their “Fair Share”.

    The best thing the government could do would be to make it a flat tax or a sales tax where everyone pays the same amount.

    I don’t know you motive but I gotta hunch if you were paying at my tax rate you would be encouraging the government to look for places to cut before they added on additional taxes for you to pay.

  9. magicwalnut

    magicwalnut GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    We could solve the problem with a federal luxury tax….purchasing something which the average person doesn’t need…like a yacht, or a four carat diamond should
    cost ya.

  10. d_legendary1 Demands Dr.C's Release

    d_legendary1 Demands Dr.C's Release said, over 3 years ago


    In other words you prefer that a rich guy get a lower tax rate because he’s filthy rich while they get to stick it to the average worker? Tell me again how the Republican Party is not the rich man’s party, I keep forgetting.

  11. corzak

    corzak said, over 3 years ago


    “Sorry Barry Fans, but Santa has run out of goodies. Don’t worry tho, he’ll probably just put it on your kids and grandkids credit card again.”

    While Americans haggle over ideology and nit-pick over budget minutiae and shades of constitutional interpretation . . . China, India, Brazil, Korea, Germany, Scandinavia – even East Europe and Africa – are currently investing trillions of dollars in infrastructure, education, energy, and research and development.

    I hope those ‘kids and grandkids’, 30 years from now, forgive today’s Americans for their idiotic shortsightedness.

  12. hippogriff

    hippogriff said, over 3 years ago

    Ionizer: No, we are a dictatorship by a corporate-military junta. We are supposed to be a democratic republic. Democracy: The rule of the people with defined rights of the majority and minority. Republic: A governmental structure operating through representatives. It was designed to be both. For republic only (your preference), see the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or the Chinese People’s Republic.

  13. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago


  14. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    “So that’s why we all pay cash when we buy a house for our future living quarters, because it would have meant spending more than we take in.”

    Usually, I tell anyone who compares government budgeting to household budgeting that they are using faulty logic, but this is a good point. If we expand it to include the idea that you have an indefinite life span & will generally make more & more money as time goes by, there is no reason why you can’t carry an ever increasing mortgage payment. There is always a limit on how big that mortgage can be, but assuming continued growth, we can keep paying our debts.

    The mortgage I had on my first home seems like a tiny amount today. The mortgage I pay now would be a burden in retirement, but if I was like government or a corporation, I could expect to be making more money 40 years from now & would not worry about paying down the mortgage.

  15. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago


    I agree with what you’re saying, but I didn’t see saywhat claim otherwise. The insistence by some posters that government does nothing for them is off base, don’t you think?

    I don’t think many people believe our elected officials are not accountable to, “We the People”, at least in theory.

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