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Tom Toles

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  1. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    The head bone’s attached to entitlements The fist bone’s attached to the military The foot bone’s attached to discretionary Oh hear the word of the polls

  2. kreole

    kreole said, almost 4 years ago

    Good one, Tom Toles !

  3. ChukLitl

    ChukLitl GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    Have either Party’s voters heard of self restraint? Cut spending, raise taxes on the %$# that blow bubbles. Kill “most favored nation” & impose tariffs on all imports. Pay off the debt so we don’t have interest as a major budget item. Charge the U.N. for being the world’s police.

  4. algurka

    algurka said, almost 4 years ago

    Hopefully, they’re both heading for extinction.

  5. grapfhics

    grapfhics said, almost 4 years ago

    I see there are no backbones on the mat.

  6. pavlov

    pavlov said, almost 4 years ago

    As I have said on other posts,There is something wrong with our tax system when tax preparation is a multi billion dollar industry. I suggest the following: Institute a flat tax for everyone including business and corporations, no deductions, no loopholes, no nothing just a percentage of your GROSS earnings. Then add progressive tariffs to offset imports from countries with cheap labor, the more a country pays its workers the smaller the tariff until wage, social parity is achieved. You could do your taxes on a postcard.

  7. beenthere41

    beenthere41 said, almost 4 years ago

    Flat taxes have been tried, and they don’t work. After deducting mandatory expenses like food, clothing, shelter, and taxes, the poor have far less discretionary income and the rich have far more. This only serves to create a wider gap between the haves and the have-nots. Progressive taxation and deductions from income try to apply the principle of “from each according to his ability”. Pavlov’s ideas on tariffs can be supported, but his ideas on taxes are naive at best.

  8. ARodney

    ARodney said, almost 4 years ago

    The postcard is not the issue. Getting those tax loopholes eliminated is the issue, corporations and hedge fund managers will fight for their exemptions, and both parties, especially Republicans, will defend them to the death.

    The biggest mistake in the Ryan plan may be setting a new tax rate before getting any of the loopholes and deductions eliminated. If he’d set it up so that the tax rate is lowered AFTER the deductions were eliminated, and lowered only as much as you can afford based on the number of deductions they actually manage to eliminate, maybe I could take him just a little more seriously.

  9. dcsohl

    dcsohl said, almost 4 years ago

    Richard Nixon is said to have seriously considered implementing a “negative income tax” scheme… which is a simple variant of a flat tax.

    Under a flat tax, you pay X% of everything you make. No ifs, ands, or buts, no matter what your income. Make $10K? Give $2500 to the gov’t. Make $1M? Give $250K to the gov’t.

    Under a negative income tax, you set a limit like, say, $40K. If you make more than $40K, you give (e.g.) 25% of everything over 40K. So if you make $41K, you pay $250 in taxes. 60K? Pay $5000 in taxes.

    If you make LESS than $40K, you pay negative taxes. The gov’t rebates you the amount. Make $30K, get $2500. (Or pay -$2500 in taxes, if you like.) And get rid of welfare programs entirely, since (for example) if you lose your job you’ll be getting $10K until you find a new one.

    What a freaking communist, that Richard Nixon, eh? He makes both sides of the spectrum today look like Ron Paul. And he was a Republican!

    But my real point being, this is something that seems to me fair and equitable and would fit on the back of a postcard. Funny how it hasn’t come up since the 70s…

  10. pavlov

    pavlov said, almost 4 years ago

    In response to my alleged nativity I suggest you read an interesting article “California Needs A Flat Tax to Solve its Budget Problem” on another note: For tax year 2010, roughly 45% of households, or about 69 million, will end up owing nothing in federal income tax, according to estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center

  11. Simon_Jester

    Simon_Jester said, almost 4 years ago

    You know every time I hear the Repubs blatting about a flat tax, it reminds me of the one about the man who tried to build an airplane out of cast iron.

    No matter how much the times may change, now matter how many times you tweak the design, that thing ain’t EVER gonna fly.

    If a flat tax is ‘fair’, then why are the main proponents of this idea wealthy conservatives who’ve seen their taxes cut repeatedly in the last decade, and STILL think they’re paying too much?

  12. pavlov

    pavlov said, almost 4 years ago

    @Simon_Jester, Jerry Brown supported it , as did the Terminator, I would point out that GE would have paid something as would all of these corporations by eliminating loop holes and corporate welfare. Also I would like to know if are you one of the 45% of households, who end up owing nothing in federal income tax.

  13. meetinthemiddle

    meetinthemiddle said, almost 4 years ago

    The real irony is that this firestorm of indignation is coming from the party who’s last VP said “Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter…”

    And under Clinton, the same party trotted out economists warning about how “dangerous” it would be to pay down the debt…

    Reagan started the trend of doubling the debt every few years and it’s only been broken under Clinton.

    To say “it’s that socialist Obama’s fault” is truly cynical revisionism.

  14. W(ar).Crime

    W(ar).Crime said, almost 4 years ago

    ^^You realize that those people are either unemployed or are earning below the poverty line. You should also realize that flat taxes are regressive.

  15. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, almost 4 years ago

    The definition of a ‘flat tax’ is a fixed percentage, like the Biblical 10%. A person making $20,000 pays $2,000 and lives on $18,000, a person earning $20 million pays $2 million and lives on $18 million.

    Some call that fair, others do not.

    A regressive tax takes a smaller and smaller percentage as income goes up. The most regressive common tax was the poll tax: take the total government expenditures, divide by the number of people, everyone pays the exact same amount, and goes to jail or forfeits rights if income is less than the poll tax (as it is for many, but then we has sugar cane that needs cut and cotton that needs picked).

    Those who say ‘flat is regressive’ lump flat with truly regressive. Which is wrong, it violates the basic definitions.

    The most progressive tax proposed was by a Marxist: decide what a family needs, and take 100% of everything earned above that amount.

    The old progressive tax increased in percentage every time income rose by a few hundred dollars, but the formula was quite complicated: earned income was taxed at no more than 50%, and capital gains half as much as earned income, but interest was taxed up to 91%. Huge tables filling large pamphlets allowed people below the 50% bracket to look up the tax on their total income, but those earning more than the 50% bracket (which wasn’t many) needed armies of accountants to come up with a more-or-less reasonable number (which was usually wrong, but the IRS couldn’t figure out the right number, either).

    I just reports and defines, I don’t opines. Regressive tax has many who say it’s the only fair tax, as does flat tax, as does progressive tax.

    But the anti-progressives have been winning since 1980, so progressive seems the least popular (though it still has a small but vocal minority supporting it as the fairest, most rational taxation scheme).

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