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  1. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    Anyone consider that folks protesting taxes, and government, have for a long time been subject to audit, especially when they make political contributions while trying to get tax free status for the funds?

  2. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 3 years ago


    I made the following post on another editorial cartoon, but I think it might also have some pertinence here:

    " People may very well have an actual argument over just how federal tax monies are being spent. That is perfectly legitimate. But to argue, as some do, that the federal government does not have the legal Constitutional right to even tax its citizens, is totally bogus, and even directly against the Constitution, which many of the same anti tax people seem to believe is almost a purely holy document (while not even understanding just what is even in the document itself). An example of this is in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution itself (not even an amendment, an actual part of the original Constitution) as follows:

    “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;”This makes it perfectly clear to anybody that can read and understand relatively simple English that the Congress of the US has the legal right to tax the citizens of the US in any way it wishes, and by any amount it wishes also. It also states that Debt service and our military are legitimate expenditures of the federal government. However, almost anything that in any way benefits the “welfare” of the country (and therefore its citizens) is also a legitimate expense of the federal government.Now, you might legitimately want to argue that last item if you wish. Indeed you not only have the right to do that, but even the obligations as an informed citizen to do that also. But, in order for any such argument for or against a particular expense to be in any way affective, it must be taken to your elected representatives in Congress. Arguing on forums such as this one might be fun, but it practically achieves almost nothing to actually change things.As for the last part, I can well believe that even the most conservative of posters here must admit that the at the very least the IRS does a relatively good job of taxing all of the people of this country evenly, whether or not you live in either California (as I do) or Mississippi.For my own part, personally (at least some 40 to 50 years ago) I found that if I have a problem in paying my federal income taxes. that if I humbly take my problem to the IRS office with the attitude that I truly wish to be able to pay my just taxes, that the people in that office (remember that just because you work for the IRS itself, you are not any more exempt from federal taxes than any other citizen) will bend over backwards to help you set up a plan to pay your taxes. And this is not usually the case with private banks or loan agencies. Of course if you go into the IRS with a chip on your shoulder about your federal taxes, (as many do) then you can indeed expect that the same people have the power to ruin you financially!!I know this was a relatively long post (even for me), but this is not a “soundbite” sort of issue! So thanks for reading. And Have A Very Good Day!!!"

    Robert Landers

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  3. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 3 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    Oops! It would seem that the paragraph markers from the original post over on the Matt Wuerker Editorial Cartoon did not copy, sorry I did not know.

  4. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    I’d like to know why any political organizations are awarded tax free status.

    What, exactly, does the Tea PARTY do for the general welfare?

  5. ARodney

    ARodney said, over 3 years ago

    The IRS did audit a liberal church in 2004 for hosting a speaker who was opposed to a war. A church! Opposed to war! Who’d a thunk it? Naturally, the GOP was fine with THAT political profiling, as long as they leave the conservative mega-churches who actually tell people how to vote alone.

  6. PlainBill

    PlainBill said, over 3 years ago


    It collects the nuts of a particular ilk into one, readily monitored, group.

  7. Wabbit

    Wabbit GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    this has happened before. The other time liberals were targeted.

  8. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 3 years ago


    Whether a group is conservative or liberal, if they advocate the abdication of our US Constitutional duty to pay taxes to the federal government, then is it not at least reasonable that those that are responsible for the collection of those taxes should take a large interest in such groups, once again should they be conservative or liberal?

  9. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, over 3 years ago

    Here’s my concern about the Tea Partiers, and it all goes back to the idea that anything taken to extreme is usually counterproductive:

    I saw a news piece about a year ago. There is a town in Florida that is what I would imagine would be a tea-partier’s heaven: you don’t have to pay for anything you don’t want to.

    There is a $75 per year fee for fire protection. This guy didn’t pay it. He didn’t say why, and I can’t be sure we could believe him anyway. Regardless, his house caught fire. He called the fire department; they looked him up and told him that they could not respond, as he had not paid his $75. He offered to pay in cash. He offered to pay more than $75. He was refused.

    The fire department did respond….to his neighbors. They kept the neighboring homes hosed down to ensure that they did not start to burn, while watching this guy’s home burn to the ground. Many firefighters became physically ill because of the situation they were put in.

    Is money so important for us to keep that we are willing to gamble that we won’t need basic services? Are we willing to let the bridge down the street fall into the creek, never to be repaired, because we don’t live near that bridge, and don’t use it anyway?

    Have we come this far as a society?

  10. Mike Greenwood

    Mike Greenwood said, over 3 years ago

    @I Play One On TV

    I await with interest to see how our fellow commentors will explain this ‘fee for fire protection’ as a good thing!

  11. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    “And how, exactly, are they (the Tea Party) harming you? If they are not harming you, why do you care? They are only saying that we are taxed enough, and the money the government gets from all of us should be spent in a more responsible manner. Perhaps no more robotic squirrels & other such utter nonsense! Anyone with half a brain should agree with that.”
    The Tea PARTY should be awarded or denied tax free status based on whether or not they do harm to me?
    A PARTY is a political organization. Why should political organizations be granted favored tax status?
    Just because YOU agree with them?

  12. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, over 3 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    Another excellent comment Mr. Lander’s. In tone and content.
    You are appreciated.


    NOTGEORGE GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    NOT under the direction of Obama.

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