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Hollow point, or frangible bullets, are less likely to pass through and hit others, reducing “collateral damage”, actually. Hate to say it, but it makes them “safer” than some nut case (gun nut or otherwise) firing a whole bunch of full metal jackets from a large magazine in an AR-15 or other “military style” weapon.
In war, wounding the enemy is more practical, taking out several people from combat to care for the victim, whereas “core-locked” hunting rounds, or hollow points make it improbable that the target will get up to fight another day, or require evacuation.
THAT is why Geneva Conventions call for full metal jackets.
A large rubber room with everybody safely placed in strait jackets so they cannot cause harm is the only answer. I volunteer to be the only madman allowed freedom so I can run the whole thing. You can trust me. I will be a benevolent overlord and treat my chattel kindly so long as they behave.
Texas recently invited gun owners who feel threatened to move to Texas. Yesterday, two young men at a Texas school decided to resolve an argument by “slappin’ leather” and three people were wounded and a fourth was identified as a heart attack. I doubt seriously either shooter was wearing western style holsters, however, to those who say we should allow students to carry guns to school, this is a really good argument against. It’s been many years since my peers and I pulled our Lone Ranger cap pistols from our gun belts and after a few ‘shots’, fell to the ground as dramatically as possible. Having seen what bullets do to deer, birds, and the results of what they did to people, I look at it differently. Those who don’t agree, should consider working as a volunteer as an emt or at a local hospital in a large city. I do not want guns banned, but I do want common sense regulation in the sale and tracking of them. Respectfully, C.
You would think that it would be of paramount importance to the VA delegate Joseph Morrissey to keep up with the guns he borrowed from law enforcement, wouldn’t you? Especially since he’s someone who proposes regulations on weapons so that they won’t make it into the hands of undesirables, right? Yet somehow or another guns that were supposed to be in his care were ‘stolen’ and one was recovered from a heroin dealer. . How then does further regulation help? . btw, congrats on being able to enjoy playing with cap pistols. Crazies now are intent on labeling 5 year olds as terrorists when they want to play with their hello kitty bubble gun.
As this is the first post I’ve read by you with which I can fully agree, I thought I should say so. While I had not heard about Mr. Morrissey D-VA, and the story you relate, if true, he is using an excuse popular with “Straw Buyers”. Did he report when the gun was stolen? I did hear about Mr. Morrissey walking into the Va. statehouse with an AK 47. He apparently made both sides of the aisle nervous as he made his point of how it was legal for a citizen to walk down the street with that weapon fully loaded. I was amused. There are two cap guns in my attic, but it’s been awhile since I’ve seen any boxes of caps being sold. Thank you for the tone of your reply as well as its content. btw, I’ve fired 9mm pistols as well as 45 and 44 caliber. How does the 10mm compare? Respectfully, C.
I certainly appreciate that even Monty Python couldn’t have written a more hysterically appropriate skit to “Gun Appreciation Day” than could have naturally and expectedly unfolded. Keep making a spectacle, you buffoons.
While in high school in a rural area during hunting season we would load our guns into whomeverwasdriving’s trunk and take our guns to school to go hunting after school. Neither school staff nor students considered this in the least unusual. A friend I met in service from WVa took his rifle to school and stored it in the cloak closet. He was expected to bring home game for dinner. We never considered shooting other students. Something has changed.
I believe you know what you’re talking about (policeman or similar). What I am concerned about is small-caliber (.30) high-speed (>3000ft/sec) bullets. They go through you, yes, but they also cause a hydraulic shock wave in your body so that your own blood causes a non-survivable exit-wound (long after the actual bullet is out). Even if you’re lucky to not have that the shock wave will destroy your cells and organs. In the movie “Jarhead” they call it “the pink mist”, an explosion of the head after a head-shot with a sniper rifle. Do you agree with my statements or did I get something wrong?
I agree with you. If you look back at this I left you a reply on Tuesday,underRob Rogers, about RED-MAPPING. Gerrymandering. and why there will in the near future a 1 one party system. it will be the GOP from here on out. I explained why. This is Very Important! THis is NOT what the founders wanted. Please check yesterday’s Rob Rogers
Morty: an arrow, broadhead hunting, causes death through blood loss, as did those of native Americans. Bullets kill through the physiology of shock, primarily, followed by tissue destruction, or blood loss, depending on the design of the projectile.
I’m familiar with creating “pink mist”, and a 30 caliber rifle round (many variations on the theme) is NOT a “small caliber”. In pistol ammunition, a .32 is considered “small”, but a .38 is not.
As to the .50 caliber 960 grain and up “sniper” rounds in use today, even a shot to the center of mass, at considerable distance, not just a head shot, results in a very large “pink mist”, and rather scattered body parts.
Which to the ‘toon, and true facts, guns don’t kill, bullets do, and the more you have in a magazine, and the larger the caliber, the greater the distance can be between shooter and target, and the greater the damage inflicted.
Hello you Wascally Wabbit… sorry, had to get that out of my system… I miss Bugs Bunny. There was a story this morning on Virginia public radio about slivers of urban areas being connected to wide swathes of rural conservative areas to neutralize the impact of minority voters. I haven’t seen the map, but my own district runs from a slender part of south eastern Virginia to Fredricksburg. My vote for congressman is shared with people who live nearly three hours away in areas more effected by drought and snow than hurricanes and tidal surges. My urban/suburban issues are in conflict with those of rural and agricultural voters. That said, I have seen “Blue mapping” take place when Dems held the majorities. You nearly quote Geo Washington when you say the Founders did not want a one party gov’t. The first president wanted us to avoid all parties and the tribalism the pettiness of human nature creates. ^ R’s are creating a sense of outrage in minorities and independent/Dem whites which I fear will give D’s an overwhelming majority in the 2014 elections. I am too cynical to believe a Dem supermajority in DC and Va would resist the urge to trample upon the issues held sacred by conservative whites and minorities, thereby energizing R’s to try harder in the 2016 elections. We see what R super majorities are doing to voting access and…other issues held sacred by D’s, but that doesn’t mean the D’s FULL agenda is good for America. ^ In order to do what needs to be done for all Americans, the impossible social issues must be set aside while we put out the ‘fires’ burning in every state and too many communities. No one party can create a long lasting plan alone. It will take bipartisan efforts or else when the pendulum next swings, the unilateral actions of a single party will be overturned and the tribalism perpetuated as the other party dominates. Thank you for the concern you show for your nation, and the efforts you make to keep the debate elevated.. Gratefully, C.
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dtroutma
said, 4 months ago
Hollow point, or frangible bullets, are less likely to pass through and hit others, reducing “collateral damage”, actually. Hate to say it, but it makes them “safer” than some nut case (gun nut or otherwise) firing a whole bunch of full metal jackets from a large magazine in an AR-15 or other “military style” weapon.
In war, wounding the enemy is more practical, taking out several people from combat to care for the victim, whereas “core-locked” hunting rounds, or hollow points make it improbable that the target will get up to fight another day, or require evacuation.
THAT is why Geneva Conventions call for full metal jackets.
BrassOrchid
said, 4 months ago
A large rubber room with everybody safely placed in strait jackets so they cannot cause harm is the only answer. I volunteer to be the only madman allowed freedom so I can run the whole thing. You can trust me. I will be a benevolent overlord and treat my chattel kindly so long as they behave.
Respectful Troll said, 4 months ago
Texas recently invited gun owners who feel threatened to move to Texas. Yesterday, two young men at a Texas school decided to resolve an argument by “slappin’ leather” and three people were wounded and a fourth was identified as a heart attack. I doubt seriously either shooter was wearing western style holsters, however, to those who say we should allow students to carry guns to school, this is a really good argument against.
It’s been many years since my peers and I pulled our Lone Ranger cap pistols from our gun belts and after a few ‘shots’, fell to the ground as dramatically as possible.
Having seen what bullets do to deer, birds, and the results of what they did to people, I look at it differently. Those who don’t agree, should consider working as a volunteer as an emt or at a local hospital in a large city.
I do not want guns banned, but I do want common sense regulation in the sale and tracking of them.
Respectfully,
C.
sw10mm said, 4 months ago
@Respectful Troll
You would think that it would be of paramount importance to the VA delegate Joseph Morrissey to keep up with the guns he borrowed from law enforcement, wouldn’t you? Especially since he’s someone who proposes regulations on weapons so that they won’t make it into the hands of undesirables, right?
Yet somehow or another guns that were supposed to be in his care were ‘stolen’ and one was recovered from a heroin dealer.
.
How then does further regulation help?
.
btw, congrats on being able to enjoy playing with cap pistols. Crazies now are intent on labeling 5 year olds as terrorists when they want to play with their hello kitty bubble gun.
Respectful Troll said, 4 months ago
@sw10mm
As this is the first post I’ve read by you with which I can fully agree, I thought I should say so.
While I had not heard about Mr. Morrissey D-VA, and the story you relate, if true, he is using an excuse popular with “Straw Buyers”. Did he report when the gun was stolen?
I did hear about Mr. Morrissey walking into the Va. statehouse with an AK 47. He apparently made both sides of the aisle nervous as he made his point of how it was legal for a citizen to walk down the street with that weapon fully loaded.
I was amused.
There are two cap guns in my attic, but it’s been awhile since I’ve seen any boxes of caps being sold.
Thank you for the tone of your reply as well as its content.
btw, I’ve fired 9mm pistols as well as 45 and 44 caliber. How does the 10mm compare?
Respectfully,
C.
PlainBill said, 4 months ago
Matt only tells a tiny part of the story. The carnage was much worse. http://tinyurl.com/b3f3rpn
Chillbilly
said, 4 months ago
I certainly appreciate that even Monty Python couldn’t have written a more hysterically appropriate skit to “Gun Appreciation Day” than could have naturally and expectedly unfolded. Keep making a spectacle, you buffoons.
Adrian Snare said, 4 months ago
@Respectful Troll
A good read, C
Particularly that last word..
Adrian
mikefive said, 4 months ago
@Respectful Troll
While in high school in a rural area during hunting season we would load our guns into whomeverwasdriving’s trunk and take our guns to school to go hunting after school. Neither school staff nor students considered this in the least unusual. A friend I met in service from WVa took his rifle to school and stored it in the cloak closet. He was expected to bring home game for dinner. We never considered shooting other students. Something has changed.
CDK said, 4 months ago
@mikefive
Yup about 10.000 new gun laws.
dfowensby said, 4 months ago
@Respectful Troll
you evidently either didn’t read all the article, or an AP or other liberal media “edited” version.
MortyForTyrant said, 4 months ago
@dtroutma
I believe you know what you’re talking about (policeman or similar). What I am concerned about is small-caliber (.30) high-speed (>3000ft/sec) bullets. They go through you, yes, but they also cause a hydraulic shock wave in your body so that your own blood causes a non-survivable exit-wound (long after the actual bullet is out). Even if you’re lucky to not have that the shock wave will destroy your cells and organs. In the movie “Jarhead” they call it “the pink mist”, an explosion of the head after a head-shot with a sniper rifle. Do you agree with my statements or did I get something wrong?
Wabbit
said, 4 months ago
@Respectful Troll
I agree with you. If you look back at this I left you a reply on Tuesday,underRob Rogers, about RED-MAPPING. Gerrymandering. and why there will in the near future a 1 one party system. it will be the GOP from here on out. I explained why. This is Very Important! THis is NOT what the founders wanted. Please check yesterday’s Rob Rogers
dtroutma
said, 4 months ago
Morty: an arrow, broadhead hunting, causes death through blood loss, as did those of native Americans. Bullets kill through the physiology of shock, primarily, followed by tissue destruction, or blood loss, depending on the design of the projectile.
I’m familiar with creating “pink mist”, and a 30 caliber rifle round (many variations on the theme) is NOT a “small caliber”. In pistol ammunition, a .32 is considered “small”, but a .38 is not.
As to the .50 caliber 960 grain and up “sniper” rounds in use today, even a shot to the center of mass, at considerable distance, not just a head shot, results in a very large “pink mist”, and rather scattered body parts.
Which to the ‘toon, and true facts, guns don’t kill, bullets do, and the more you have in a magazine, and the larger the caliber, the greater the distance can be between shooter and target, and the greater the damage inflicted.
Respectful Troll said, 4 months ago
@Wabbit
Hello you Wascally Wabbit…
sorry, had to get that out of my system… I miss Bugs Bunny.
There was a story this morning on Virginia public radio about slivers of urban areas being connected to wide swathes of rural conservative areas to neutralize the impact of minority voters. I haven’t seen the map, but my own district runs from a slender part of south eastern Virginia to Fredricksburg. My vote for congressman is shared with people who live nearly three hours away in areas more effected by drought and snow than hurricanes and tidal surges. My urban/suburban issues are in conflict with those of rural and agricultural voters.
That said, I have seen “Blue mapping” take place when Dems held the majorities.
You nearly quote Geo Washington when you say the Founders did not want a one party gov’t. The first president wanted us to avoid all parties and the tribalism the pettiness of human nature creates.
^
R’s are creating a sense of outrage in minorities and independent/Dem whites which I fear will give D’s an overwhelming majority in the 2014 elections. I am too cynical to believe a Dem supermajority in DC and Va would resist the urge to trample upon the issues held sacred by conservative whites and minorities, thereby energizing R’s to try harder in the 2016 elections. We see what R super majorities are doing to voting access and…other issues held sacred by D’s, but that doesn’t mean the D’s FULL agenda is good for America.
^
In order to do what needs to be done for all Americans, the impossible social issues must be set aside while we put out the ‘fires’ burning in every state and too many communities. No one party can create a long lasting plan alone. It will take bipartisan efforts or else when the pendulum next swings, the unilateral actions of a single party will be overturned and the tribalism perpetuated as the other party dominates.
Thank you for the concern you show for your nation, and the efforts you make to keep the debate elevated..
Gratefully,
C.