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The gas prices are artificial. They no longer follow the rules of supply and demand, they follow the GOP polling data. The oil companies make billions and billions every year because they can, because they know that the citizens are either too depended on their cars or to set in their ways to try something new. All the traders know that the Hubbard-peak has already happened and that production is going to go down from now on, and prices will – slowly, ever so slowly – rise to the point where it becomes unfeasible to drive. They are milking the last bucks out of the customers before they have to admit that the whole system of fossil fuels is collapsing fast. And THEN we will get the floods.
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The melting north pole is no primary problem (floating ice is 10% more voluminous than the water it is made of). But it is a secondary problem in terms of the Earth albedo (rate of reflection of incoming sunlight). At a certain point the ice on Greenland (which has been thawing on the whole island last year for the first time) will actually melt. That ice is up to 4000 yards thick. And Greenland is the biggest island on the planet. Say goodbye to Tuvalu, the Maldives, Bangladesh. Say hello to regular flooding in New York, Boston, Miami. And prepare for one Cat 5 hurricane to hit every season…
Yes and say hello to more and more refugees looking for a new place to live. But on a lighter note, after living in Germany for ten years, I find it amusing how people in the U.S. whine about “high gas prices”. Prices here have consistently been two to three times as high as in the U.S. and still, life is good (and unemployment is lower).
In 1946, everyone knew that E=mc2, so there would be absolutely no demand for oil after 1970. Eisenhower and the Texas Railroad commission agreed that the price of oil in the US must be kept at more than three times world oil prices, to support the US oil industry, so the US would produce most of the world’s oil, which was one of the reasons the US won WWII. The King of Saudi Arabia and the Shah of Iran were warned that, if they didn’t sell their oil immediately, it would be worthless, but Aramco would give them a little less than $1 per barrel, or about 0.89 gm of 24K gold, the only recognised currency for international trade.
Then 1970 came, demand for oil was up, and Nixon said the US dollar was only worth the paper on which it was printed. The oil producing countries were furious, but were told no one would ever pay more than $1, even though the $ was now worthless. Then in 1973, an oil pipeline broke, and the only one who could supply the oil the US desperately needed was Qadhafi, who trebled the price (up to what the Texans had been charging). The world finally got revenge on Qadhafi this year for his totally unacceptable price gouging, which set off a race to see who could charge more for their oil. Kissinger got the Shah replaced by a devout, ascetic cleric with no interest in oil, which drove the price down from $3 to $20, and for which we owe Kissinger a massive debt of eternal gratitude. And the Western oil consmers always managed to replace any head of state who wouldn’t sell his oil at all after 1970, but could not control the price after 1973. And it’s all Qadhafi’s fault, so everyone is happy he was finally brought to justice.
I agree that the price of oil is totally unrelated to supply and demand, that the high price of gas in the US has nothing to do with deferred maintenance on refineries that finally failed, but is all just manipulation by a shadowy conspiracy.
What I don’t know is whether this is a right-wing trilateral conspiracy as the Left claims, or a left-wing green conspiracy as the Right claims. Please tell me which one it really is, with evidence.
With the thousands and thousands of people involved in oil trading in the commodities markets around the world, there is no way that a conspiracy by either left or right wouldn’t be known.
What else can we do to help the oil companies other than require random citizens to fellate their executives? Believing that this has anything to do with politicians is the height of stupidity. And on par for Lisa Benson.
Why is the ice cap on Antarctica getting bigger?Why is there ice already,today, a little further south then it usually is?Where was the sea level during the Holocene Maximum,the warmest period in human history that ended 3500 years ago?What caused it?Sure wasn’t SUV’s or burning fossil fuels? Do you have anything made from plastic?Thats where petroleum refiners make,by far,the most money.Most of that comes from overseas markets.No new refineries have been built since 1976.Your President said he would do nothing if the price of gas went to $10.00 a gallon.That wouldn’t effect his millionare self or globe trotting Michelle.Or any of the super rich Dem donors.Who do you think goes to those $40,000 a plate fund raisers?
What are the bicycle tires made of?How is that bike in the rain and cold?There were a lot of cyclist that used to ride on a very,very busy main road and block traffic dart in front of cars,run stop signs and red lights,in general be a huge pain .Then one day a couple of months ago one of them darted in front of a speeding illegal alein.No license,no registration,no insurance.Got out of the car and ran after the bike ruined a tire.The biker of course has no insurance or job and lots of bills now.
Forget the gas prices… Huckabee wants Republicans to let the air out of Obama supporter’s cars. And as Morty the Gentle Tyrants says, the GOPKNOWS gas prices, like job numbers, have a big impact on independent voters. It does not behoove the R-Party supporters for their corporate donors to hire more people, or to upgrade business and local infrastructure. That would make Obama look good. Corporations do not NEED the US middle class to succeed since free trade and international customers have given them a worldwide market to keep profits high while US citizens, hopefully, blame Obama for hardships over which he has no legal control. Oil is just one more weapon being used against USA citizens of all parties. Respectfully, C.
Wherever you get your climate change info, it appears it is picking and choosing aspects of the whole story and misinterpreting them. The Antarctic ice cap is growing as a result of two (man-made) issues. 1. Global warming affects the ocean temperatures, which is causing the arctic ice to melt faster. It also puts more moisture in the air, where it is accumulating as more snow and precipitation in the Antarctic, which is mainly over land and can stay cooler. Long term effects may include larger ice flows from the south and a cooling trend in southern hemisphere ecosystems that gave adapted to warmer weather and may not have time to adapt to a faster cooling trend. 2. The hole in the ozone layer above Antarctica is roughly the size of North America. This is causing radiant heat, reflected by the white ice, to escape, causing a faster than normal temperature drop and creating high winds, which is affecting global weather patterns and causing more severe weather. Just thought I’d clear up that part of your question.
Mix a snifter of Bill Mauldin, a dash of Jeff McNelly and a very large dollop of common sense, and you begin to get an idea of Lisa Benson’s considerable talent.
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MortyForTyrant said, 8 months ago
The gas prices are artificial. They no longer follow the rules of supply and demand, they follow the GOP polling data. The oil companies make billions and billions every year because they can, because they know that the citizens are either too depended on their cars or to set in their ways to try something new. All the traders know that the Hubbard-peak has already happened and that production is going to go down from now on, and prices will – slowly, ever so slowly – rise to the point where it becomes unfeasible to drive. They are milking the last bucks out of the customers before they have to admit that the whole system of fossil fuels is collapsing fast. And THEN we will get the floods.
-
The melting north pole is no primary problem (floating ice is 10% more voluminous than the water it is made of). But it is a secondary problem in terms of the Earth albedo (rate of reflection of incoming sunlight). At a certain point the ice on Greenland (which has been thawing on the whole island last year for the first time) will actually melt. That ice is up to 4000 yards thick. And Greenland is the biggest island on the planet. Say goodbye to Tuvalu, the Maldives, Bangladesh. Say hello to regular flooding in New York, Boston, Miami. And prepare for one Cat 5 hurricane to hit every season…
saywhatwhat said, 8 months ago
Yes and say hello to more and more refugees looking for a new place to live.
But on a lighter note, after living in Germany for ten years, I find it amusing how people in the U.S. whine about “high gas prices”. Prices here have consistently been two to three times as high as in the U.S. and still, life is good (and unemployment is lower).
Michael wme said, 8 months ago
In 1946, everyone knew that E=mc2, so there would be absolutely no demand for oil after 1970. Eisenhower and the Texas Railroad commission agreed that the price of oil in the US must be kept at more than three times world oil prices, to support the US oil industry, so the US would produce most of the world’s oil, which was one of the reasons the US won WWII. The King of Saudi Arabia and the Shah of Iran were warned that, if they didn’t sell their oil immediately, it would be worthless, but Aramco would give them a little less than $1 per barrel, or about 0.89 gm of 24K gold, the only recognised currency for international trade.
Then 1970 came, demand for oil was up, and Nixon said the US dollar was only worth the paper on which it was printed. The oil producing countries were furious, but were told no one would ever pay more than $1, even though the $ was now worthless.
Then in 1973, an oil pipeline broke, and the only one who could supply the oil the US desperately needed was Qadhafi, who trebled the price (up to what the Texans had been charging). The world finally got revenge on Qadhafi this year for his totally unacceptable price gouging, which set off a race to see who could charge more for their oil. Kissinger got the Shah replaced by a devout, ascetic cleric with no interest in oil, which drove the price down from $3 to $20, and for which we owe Kissinger a massive debt of eternal gratitude.
And the Western oil consmers always managed to replace any head of state who wouldn’t sell his oil at all after 1970, but could not control the price after 1973.
And it’s all Qadhafi’s fault, so everyone is happy he was finally brought to justice.
greyolddave said, 8 months ago
And the price of gasoline in China you ask? Equivalent to about $us 1.50 per US gallon. They tax gasoline too. So why is it so cheap over there?
Michael wme said, 8 months ago
@MortyForTyrant
I agree that the price of oil is totally unrelated to supply and demand, that the high price of gas in the US has nothing to do with deferred maintenance on refineries that finally failed, but is all just manipulation by a shadowy conspiracy.
What I don’t know is whether this is a right-wing trilateral conspiracy as the Left claims, or a left-wing green conspiracy as the Right claims.
Please tell me which one it really is, with evidence.
mikefive said, 8 months ago
@Michael wme
With the thousands and thousands of people involved in oil trading in the commodities markets around the world, there is no way that a conspiracy by either left or right wouldn’t be known.
narrowminded said, 8 months ago
Sanity is rarer than I thought.
Clark Kent said, 8 months ago
You won’t see me on my bicycle in there.
Chillbilly
said, 8 months ago
What else can we do to help the oil companies other than require random citizens to fellate their executives? Believing that this has anything to do with politicians is the height of stupidity. And on par for Lisa Benson.
denis1112 said, 8 months ago
@MortyForTyrant
Why is the ice cap on Antarctica getting bigger?Why is there ice already,today, a little further south then it usually is?Where was the sea level during the Holocene Maximum,the warmest period in human history that ended 3500 years ago?What caused it?Sure wasn’t SUV’s or burning fossil fuels?
Do you have anything made from plastic?Thats where petroleum refiners make,by far,the most money.Most of that comes from overseas markets.No new refineries have been built since 1976.Your President said he would do nothing if the price of gas went to $10.00 a gallon.That wouldn’t effect his millionare self or globe trotting Michelle.Or any of the super rich Dem donors.Who do you think goes to those $40,000 a plate fund raisers?
denis1112 said, 8 months ago
@Clark Kent
What are the bicycle tires made of?How is that bike in the rain and cold?There were a lot of cyclist that used to ride on a very,very busy main road and block traffic dart in front of cars,run stop signs and red lights,in general be a huge pain .Then one day a couple of months ago one of them darted in front of a speeding illegal alein.No license,no registration,no insurance.Got out of the car and ran after the bike ruined a tire.The biker of course has no insurance or job and lots of bills now.
Justice22 said, 8 months ago
@denis1112
If your story happened as related how did they know he was an illegal alien with no insurance and no license?
Mhic Dhu Ghaill
said, 8 months ago
@MortyForTyrant
Your local station/oil co. makes 3¢ a gallon. Taxes(all) are ± 20¢.
Respectful Troll said, 8 months ago
http://www.wral.com/mitt-romney-to-hold-asheville-rally/11647458/
Forget the gas prices… Huckabee wants Republicans to let the air out of Obama supporter’s cars. And as Morty the Gentle Tyrants says, the GOP KNOWS gas prices, like job numbers, have a big impact on independent voters.
It does not behoove the R-Party supporters for their corporate donors to hire more people, or to upgrade business and local infrastructure. That would make Obama look good.
Corporations do not NEED the US middle class to succeed since free trade and international customers have given them a worldwide market to keep profits high while US citizens, hopefully, blame Obama for hardships over which he has no legal control. Oil is just one more weapon being used against USA citizens of all parties.
Respectfully,
C.
Fourcrows said, 8 months ago
@denis1112
Wherever you get your climate change info, it appears it is picking and choosing aspects of the whole story and misinterpreting them. The Antarctic ice cap is growing as a result of two (man-made) issues.
1. Global warming affects the ocean temperatures, which is causing the arctic ice to melt faster. It also puts more moisture in the air, where it is accumulating as more snow and precipitation in the Antarctic, which is mainly over land and can stay cooler. Long term effects may include larger ice flows from the south and a cooling trend in southern hemisphere ecosystems that gave adapted to warmer weather and may not have time to adapt to a faster cooling trend.
2. The hole in the ozone layer above Antarctica is roughly the size of North America. This is causing radiant heat, reflected by the white ice, to escape, causing a faster than normal temperature drop and creating high winds, which is affecting global weather patterns and causing more severe weather.
Just thought I’d clear up that part of your question.